Natural Exponential Function Problems

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The discussion revolves around problems involving natural exponential functions and logarithmic inequalities. Participants are attempting to solve equations and inequalities that include exponential terms and logarithmic expressions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are discussing how to isolate variables in equations involving exponential functions. There is uncertainty about the correct steps to take after initial manipulations, particularly regarding the use of logarithms. Questions arise about interpreting inequalities and the meaning of greater/less than signs in the context of logarithmic expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating the equations and inequalities, suggesting methods such as exponentiating both sides of an equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of logarithmic and exponential functions, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the implications of inequalities and the steps necessary to solve them. There is a mention of needing to review foundational concepts related to inequalities.

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Homework Statement


10(1 + e-x)-1=3


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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to solve for x, but I don't know how to go about this. I tried dividing the 3 by the 10, but after that I don't know what to do. I believe I should use ln on both side, but that's after I solved for x right?

Homework Statement


a) 2<lnx<9
b) e2-3x>4


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


It asks me to solve for the inequality of x, but I'm I don't know what that means and I don't know what the greater/less than signs mean.
 
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Gattz said:

Homework Statement


10(1 + e-x)-1=3


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I'm supposed to solve for x, but I don't know how to go about this. I tried dividing the 3 by the 10, but after that I don't know what to do.
Multiply both sides by (1 + e-x), then divide both sides by 3. Don't take the ln of both sides until you have the exponential term all by itself on one side.
Gattz said:
I believe I should use ln on both side, but that's after I solved for x right?

Homework Statement


a) 2<lnx<9
b) e2-3x>4


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


It asks me to solve for the inequality of x, but I'm I don't know what that means and I don't know what the greater/less than signs mean.
For a) it means that you need to arrive at an inequality of the form A < x < B. I really hope you didn't mean you don't understand what these inequality signs mean. If so, you're going to have to go back and review the section that introduced inequalities.

Without working the problem for you, if you had this equation 5 = ln x, you could "exponentiate" each side of the equation; that is, you can make each side the exponent on e, giving you e5 = eln x.
Hopefully, you know that eln x = x, so we have solved this equation for x.

You can do the same thing with your inequality.

For b, you can take the ln of both sides.
 
For the second equation, you are expected to exploit the monotonocity of the exponential and logarithmic functions. Specifically:

u &lt; v \Rightarrow \ln(u) &lt; \ln(v)

u &lt; v \Rightarrow e^u &lt; e^v

--Elucidus
 
Elucidus said:
For the second equation, you are expected to exploit the monotonocity of the exponential and logarithmic functions. Specifically:

u &lt; v \Rightarrow \ln(u) &lt; \ln(v)

u &lt; v \Rightarrow e^u &lt; e^v

--Elucidus
Nit: "For the second inequality..."
 
Mark44 said:
Nit: "For the second inequality..."

Point taken. It goes to show that I have way too much math on the brain - I meant to write "second question." :redface:

--Elucidus
 

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