Naturally occurring elements yet to be discovered?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of discovering naturally occurring elements with atomic numbers higher than 118. Participants explore the implications of current knowledge regarding the periodic table and the stability of elements.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether all naturally occurring elements have been discovered, particularly those with atomic numbers greater than 118.
  • One participant asserts that while it is possible to find such elements, it is unlikely without redefining neutron stars.
  • Another participant references "neutronium" in relation to the discussion of neutron stars.
  • Concerns are raised about the "islands of stability," suggesting that these regions have had sufficient time to be explored, given the age of the universe compared to the half-lives of potential elements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of discovering naturally occurring elements beyond atomic number 118, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the concept of "islands of stability" and the age of the universe, which may depend on specific definitions and assumptions about element stability and discovery.

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So I know that all the elements above 92 on the periodic table do not occur naturally, does that mean that we've discovered all the naturally occurring elements? Is it possible that there can be elements with a higher atomic number than 118 that we just haven't discovered yet in nature?
 
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"Possible?" Yes.
Likely? Without redefinition of neutron stars ---- no.
 
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Bystander said:
"Possible?" Yes.
Likely? Without redefinition of neutron stars ---- no.
Oh haha you mean like neutronium?

Why is it unlikely?
 
The "islands of stability" have all had ample time to be discovered/occur. (13-14 Ga last time I looked --- vs. 1/2 lives of how many seconds?)
 
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