Navigate the Res-Monster Maze: Find R's Current

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves analyzing a circuit with multiple resistors and batteries to determine the current through a specific resistor, R. The resistors have a resistance of 4.0 ohms, and the batteries have an emf of 4.0 V. The context suggests a focus on applying circuit laws and understanding the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the loop rule and question the validity of the selected loops for analysis. There is a focus on whether the current through R can be determined without considering other resistors in the circuit. Some participants seek clarification on the implications of current sharing in different loops.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions about current flow and the selection of loops for analysis. Some guidance has been offered regarding the potential differences across components, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to find the current through R.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that all resistors are of equal value, and there is a suggestion that the unknown resistor R may have a different value. The potential difference across the batteries is emphasized as a key factor in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


Res-monster maze. In Fig. 27-21, all the resistors have a resistance of 4.0 and all the (ideal) batteries have an emf of 4.0 V. What is the current through resistor R? (If you can find the proper loop through this maze, you can answer the question with a few seconds of mental calculation.)

Homework Equations


V = IR

The Attempt at a Solution


Can't I just use the loop rule which says that the sum of all the voltage drops in a closed loop is equal to zero? So I would just go around the smallest loop that encompasses the R, and I'd have
ε - IR - IR = 0 -> I = ε/2R but this isn't correct.
 

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No, you can't do that. For the loop that you selected, the current (I) is shared by other loops.
 
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
 
Can you draw the loop you selected on the drawing?

In the problem statement, all the resistors have a value of 4 ohms. I would label them all r. The unknown R could have some other value.

Is your equation involved with both r plus R? Please show a sketch.
 
L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
Uh ... you really need to rethink that.
 
L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
You can take the potential zero at point O. What is the potential at A? Find a path from O to A going through batteries only.
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L_landau said:
But if I don't go through any other resistors besides R, and take a circle around the circuit back to R (going through a few potentials), that path doesn't share it's current with other loops? What's the thought process for that?
The potential difference across an ideal battery stays the same if you connect anything to its terminals. If you know the potential difference across R you can get the current through it.
 

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