Need 0-3v output from 0-12v input

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of obtaining a 0-3V output from a 0-12V input for a gauge in a car, focusing on methods to achieve this voltage adjustment while maintaining compatibility with other lighting controls. Participants explore various electrical engineering concepts and components relevant to the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a voltage divider, questioning its effectiveness across varying input voltages.
  • Another participant proposes testing the current draw of the gauge display using a multimeter and mentions the possibility of using a variable resistor for adjustment.
  • A later reply indicates that the specific models of diodes and transistors are not critical, emphasizing the importance of the resistor ratio instead.
  • One participant notes that the car's electrical voltage can fluctuate depending on whether the alternator is charging, recommending a 3-pin voltage regulator as a solution.

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Participants present multiple approaches and suggestions, indicating a lack of consensus on the best method to achieve the desired voltage output. Various models and techniques are discussed without agreement on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the current draw of the gauge and the implications of using a voltage divider under varying conditions. The discussion includes assumptions about the gauge's electrical characteristics and the behavior of the proposed solutions.

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Hi, this isn't a homework question, but this is one of the best technical forums I've seen for stuff like this so I thought I would give it a shot.

Im an aerospace engineering student (3rd year) and like all engineers I like to tinker with stuff, but electrical wiring like this is not my specialty.

I have a gauge in my car that runs off a 3v source. I want to be able to dim it with the interior control knob that controls all the other lights (and 2 gauges right beside this one). I emailed the manufacturer about it and they said just throw in a resistor until its where you want it. I don't really like that idea since I want to be able to adjust it with the other gauges.
Let me back up and say the gauge lighting is run on a constant 3v from the sending unit. The typical car system is 12v, obviously. What I want is basically a linear control over the gauge, ie, I have the knob at 6v I want the gauge at 1.5v; 12v to 3v; 0v to 0v.

I asked one of my professors and he mentioned a voltage regulator, but I have never used those before...

Thanks in advance.
 
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A simple two resistor voltage divider might work if the gauge doesn't draw too much current.

http://web.mit.edu/rec/www/workshop/voltage-divider.gif
 
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Yea, I considered a voltage divider, but will it always give the same ratio no matter the input voltage since it has a range of 0-12?

For testing it, would R1=3ohm and R2=1ohm work fine for a 1/4 scale?

Im not sure of how much current the display draws, but its a couple LEDs so I imagine its not much. Any way to easily find out?
 
Anyone else?
 
Atomic178 said:
Im not sure of how much current the display draws, but its a couple LEDs so I imagine its not much. Any way to easily find out?
Hook it up to a multimeter. You can use the voltage divider idea for this test.

I emailed the manufacturer about it and they said just throw in a resistor until its where you want it. I don't really like that idea since I want to be able to adjust it with the other gauges.
What about using a variable resistor?
 
This circuit should work. The diode and transistor models are not important. Just about any diode or transistor should work. Likewise it's the ratio of the values of R1 and R2 that is important not their actual values although they should be kept in the same range as the example. It may be easier to replace the diode with a second transistor and not connect the collector.
 

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The electrical voltage in the car depends on whether the alternator is charging (~13,8 volts) or not (~12 volts). If this bothers you, go to the nearest electronics store and buy a 3-pin 7806 or 7805 voltage regulator.

Bob S
 

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