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The problem involves using mathematical induction to prove that \(3^{n}+7^{n}-2\) is divisible by 8 for all positive integers \(n\). The original poster presents their proof attempt and seeks feedback on its validity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster outlines a base case and an inductive step, questioning whether their reasoning about the divisibility of \(4(7^k+1)\) is sufficient. Other participants suggest providing more detail in the proof and consider alternative approaches to demonstrate the evenness of \(7^k + 1\).

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Participants note the importance of rigor in mathematical proofs and the potential challenges in communicating mathematical ideas clearly, especially when using notation.

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Hey guys, this is a problem given to us by our professor in one of the worksheets. I would like an opinion to see if this proof is valid

Homework Statement



Use mathematical induction to prove that 3^{n}+7^{n}-2 is divisible by 8 for \foralln\inZ^{+}

Homework Equations



Base step:
n=0
30+70-2=1+1-2=0
0 is divisible by 8 therefore it's true for n=0

The Attempt at a Solution


Inductive step
Assume that 3k+7k-2 is divisible by 8 is true.
We need to show that 3k+1+7k+1-2 is divisible by 8 as well

3k+1+7k+1-2 = 3*3k+7*7k-2
= 3(3k+7k-2)+4*7k+4

By inductive hypothesis we already know that 3k+7k-2 is divisible by 8 .
Now this is my problem, I'm also trying to show that 4*7k+4 is divisible by 8 as well. This is my attempt at trying to prove it

4*7k+4=4*(7k+1)

7k+1 will always be an even number for k\ge0. Multiplied by 4 this number will always be divisible by 8.
My question is do I still have to prove that 4*(7k+1) is divisible by 8 or is stating that is enough proof?

Thanks for reading
 
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The setup looks good, but if I were grading this I'd look for more detail on why 4 \left(7^k+1\right) is divisible by 8.

I admit my choice is probably specific to my teaching style, but quite often I see students making a ``it is obvious that it is true'' claim when

a) it isn't true

or

b) it is true but they aren't sure why

I can tell you know why it's true - it shouldn't be that hard to write out.

(My choice for more work may, and probably will, be commented on as a little harsh by others: I admit it's a personal choice).
 
Thanks for your input statdad, anything is appreciated! Knowing my teacher, she would look into specifics as well and that's why I had to ask.

I was thinking of proving that statement with another case by induction
( I gave up trying to use latex code, it's really messing up on me and not outputting the correct notations)

We are to prove that 4(7k+1) is divisible by 8 for k is a positive integer

Base step
k=1
4(7k+1)=4(71+1)=32
32 is divisible by 8

Inductive step
assume 4(7j+1) for j=k and that it is true.
We need to show that 4(7j+1+1) is true as well.
4(7j+1+1)=4(7*7j+1)
=28*7j+4=4(7j+1)+24*7j
by the inductive hypothesis 4(7j+1) is divisible by 8
24*7j is also divisible by 8 as the former is a multiple of the latter.
Therefore 4(7k+1) is divisible by 8
 
nistaria said:
Thanks for your input statdad, anything is appreciated! Knowing my teacher, she would look into specifics as well and that's why I had to ask.

I was thinking of proving that statement with another case by induction
( I gave up trying to use latex code, it's really messing up on me and not outputting the correct notations)

We are to prove that 4(7k+1) is divisible by 8 for k is a positive integer

Base step
k=1
4(7k+1)=4(71+1)=32
32 is divisible by 8

Inductive step
assume 4(7j+1) for j=k and that it is true.
We need to show that 4(7j+1+1) is true as well.
4(7j+1+1)=4(7*7j+1)
=28*7j+4=4(7j+1)+24*7j
by the inductive hypothesis 4(7j+1) is divisible by 8
24*7j is also divisible by 8 as the former is a multiple of the latter.
Therefore 4(7k+1) is divisible by 8

More than I expected :)

I was thinking that if you could argue 7^k + 1 is always even, then

<br /> 7^k + 1 = 2m<br />

for some integer m, so 4\left(7^k + 1 \right) = 8m is divisible by 8.
 
statdad said:
More than I expected :)

I was thinking that if you could argue 7^k + 1 is always even, then

<br /> 7^k + 1 = 2m<br />

for some integer m, so 4\left(7^k + 1 \right) = 8m is divisible by 8.
Oh I like that.. very simple and effective!
Thanks for the input, I am much obliged.
 
You could state that the product of two or more odd numbers is itself odd, that should be enough.
 

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