Electric Field and Force Components for Point Charges Q1 and Q2?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field and force components for point charges Q1 and Q2, with specific conditions for a test charge at (5,0,6). For part a, the user calculated Q1 as -3.41 nC, while the book states -3.463 nC, leading to questions about the use of square roots in the calculations. In part b, the user found Q1 to be -48 nC, but the book indicates -18 nC, prompting further clarification on the approach to equate force components. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly calculating electric fields and ensuring that the results from part a are accurately applied to part b. The discussion highlights the complexities involved in electric field calculations and the need for precise unit vector usage.
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point charges, Q1 (4,0,-3) and Q2 (2,0,1). Q2 = 4 nC, find Q1 such that the a. electric field at (5,0,6) has no z component.
b. force on a test charge at (5,0,6) has no x component.

heres what i did for a:

i found the distance from Q1 to (5,0,6) to be the square root of 82
distance from Q2 to (5,0,6) to be square root of 34.

i than found the unit vectors.
multipled by the charges and set the z components equal.

so i had 9Q1/sqr rt 82 = - 4nc*5/sqr rt 34
ended up with Q1 = -3.41 nc. answer in the back of the book says -3.463

on the second part i found the two forces using (Q*Qt)/4*pi*Eo*R^2.
i than multiplied these by the unit vectors in the x direction and set one of them equal to negative the other and solved for Q1. i ended up with an answer of -48nC, the book says -18nC.
 
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Why are there square roots in the denominators in the first equality.Shouldn't they have disappeared when squared...?

Daniel.
 
thats how the unit vector is found. divide the change in x or y or z and than divide by the distance between the two points. distance between the two points is the square root of (x2-x1) + (y2-y1) + (z2-y1)
 
Yes,but you should have equated "z" components of the fields ALTOGETHER...Does that change anything...?

Daniel.
 
so i find electric field due to Q1 and Q2 by using this formula right:
E = F/Q
where F = (Q*Qt)/(4*pi*Eo*R^2). i don't see how that's going to work because the Qs are going to cancel.
 
No,they're not.What's the general expression of an electric field generated by a point charge "q" situated in the origin of a coordinate system,field created at point of position vector \vec{r} ??

Daniel.
 
E = (q*Q/4*pi*Eo*R^2)/q Ar
right?
 
No.It's more like a vector,of this form
\vec{E}=\frac{q}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}|\vec{r}|^{2}} \frac{\vec{r}}{|\vec{r}|}

For your problem,chose a system of coordinates and compute the total field at the point you're interested.Just then,u can set the component of the resulting field equal to zero.

Daniel.
 
k, what about the second part? I am pretty sure i did that right
 
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and i tred it the way you told me and i got an answer of -8.3 nC for Q1. not the same as the back of the book.
 
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For the second part,you need to have done first part right...Because it uses the charge calculated at point "a"...

Daniel.
 
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