Need help calculating the heat of a wire wrapped

AI Thread Summary
To control the temperature of a coiled 32 gauge kanthal wire wrapped around a glass tube, it's essential to calculate the power needed to reach a specific temperature range of 320-430 degrees F. The resistance of the wire, which is 13.75 ohms per foot, plays a crucial role, but the diameter of the tube and insulation also significantly affect heat retention. Insulation, such as glass wool or high-temperature silicone, can minimize heat loss and help maintain the desired temperature. A practical approach may involve testing and measuring rather than relying solely on calculations, as achieving a constant temperature requires balancing heat input and losses. Overall, careful consideration of insulation and testing methods will be key to success.
devinA
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Okay so before I get torn to shreds let me say I am coming to the gurus for knowledge because I am severely lacking in it.

So here is what I am trying to do. I am trying to figure out how to control the temperature of a wire when coiled or wrapped around a small glass tube. I am using 32 gauge kenthal wire I believe the resistance is 13.75 ohms per foot. Let's say I am using a foot of it to keep it easy. I guess my question is: is there a way to calculate the amount of Power (watts?) it is going to take to heat the wire to a specific temperature range? Say between 320-430 degrees F?

Things I know I don't know:
Will the diameter of the thing it is wrapped around change the outcome? or is it just based on the length and resistance of the wire? ( I read some formulas about the cross sectional area is that the space in which it is wrapped length wise along the thing I am wrapping?) just wasn't exactly sure on this

Would there be a way to limit the voltage or wattage to get the wires to reach a certain temperature and stay at that temp? (for the most part I know there will be heat loss and stuff like that)

I am trying to do this as "mechanical" as possible I guess I mean to say I want to use the most simple things I can to accomplish desired effect even at the cost of some efficiency or complete accuracy.

Any and all tips and criticism is welcome, I know I do not know what I need to and I am humbly asking for help.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
devinA said:
Okay so before I get torn to shreds let me say I am coming to the gurus for knowledge because I am severely lacking in it.

So here is what I am trying to do. I am trying to figure out how to control the temperature of a wire when coiled or wrapped around a small glass tube. I am using 32 gauge kenthal wire I believe the resistance is 13.75 ohms per foot. Let's say I am using a foot of it to keep it easy. I guess my question is: is there a way to calculate the amount of Power (watts?) it is going to take to heat the wire to a specific temperature range? Say between 320-430 degrees F?

Things I know I don't know:
Will the diameter of the thing it is wrapped around change the outcome? or is it just based on the length and resistance of the wire? ( I read some formulas about the cross sectional area is that the space in which it is wrapped length wise along the thing I am wrapping?) just wasn't exactly sure on this

Would there be a way to limit the voltage or wattage to get the wires to reach a certain temperature and stay at that temp? (for the most part I know there will be heat loss and stuff like that)

I am trying to do this as "mechanical" as possible I guess I mean to say I want to use the most simple things I can to accomplish desired effect even at the cost of some efficiency or complete accuracy.

Any and all tips and criticism is welcome, I know I do not know what I need to and I am humbly asking for help.

We used to use a set-up like this (with nichrome wire) to do pyrolysis reactions in a quartz tube under vacuum. You are likely going to lose a lot of heat unless you insulate the system. We would use glass wool to insulate our set-up. My guess is that insulation of the system is going to be the thing that limits the temperature that you will be able to achieve.

Recognize that a constant temperature means that the heat in (I^2R heating) equals the heat out. The heat out is going to depend upon the rates of heat out for the various loss mechanisms. Insulation minimizes some of these loss mechanisms.
 
So instead of trying to calculate everything out would this be a better situation to approach by testing and measuring? I was planning to insulate with high temperature grade silicone
 
devinA said:
So instead of trying to calculate everything out would this be a better situation to approach by testing and measuring? I was planning to insulate with high temperature grade silicone
I would try first with something you could remove, like a fiberglass sleeve, etc.
 
Hi all, I have a question. So from the derivation of the Isentropic process relationship PV^gamma = constant, there is a step dW = PdV, which can only be said for quasi-equilibrium (or reversible) processes. As such I believe PV^gamma = constant (and the family of equations) should not be applicable to just adiabatic processes? Ie, it should be applicable only for adiabatic + reversible = isentropic processes? However, I've seen couple of online notes/books, and...
Thread 'How can I find the cleanout for my building drain?'
I am a long distance truck driver, but I recently completed a plumbing program with Stratford Career Institute. In the chapter of my textbook Repairing DWV Systems, the author says that if there is a clog in the building drain, one can clear out the clog by using a snake augur or maybe some other type of tool into the cleanout for the building drain. The author said that the cleanout for the building drain is usually near the stack. I live in a duplex townhouse. Just out of curiosity, I...
I have an engine that uses a dry sump oiling system. The oil collection pan has three AN fittings to use for scavenging. Two of the fittings are approximately on the same level, the third is about 1/2 to 3/4 inch higher than the other two. The system ran for years with no problem using a three stage pump (one pressure and two scavenge stages). The two scavenge stages were connected at times to any two of the three AN fittings on the tank. Recently I tried an upgrade to a four stage pump...
Back
Top