Need help obtaining hydrostatic forces on a gate

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The discussion revolves around calculating hydrostatic forces on a gate using the formula F = pgA(h bar). Participants express frustration over insufficient information provided for the exam question, specifically regarding water pressure and conditions for the gate's movement. Key points include the need for known values like water density and gravitational acceleration, as well as the importance of drawing a free body diagram (FBD) to analyze forces and moments. Some users mention issues with the diagram's accuracy, which complicates understanding. Ultimately, one participant successfully solved the problem and plans to share their solution.
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I know we need to use F = pgA(h bar), as that's what I'm given in notes and whatnot, but I can't for the life of me get this simple one done.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated as I have an exam coming up on this.
 
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It is not that simple. Two questions that might help:
What is the water pressure at the horizontal part?
What is the difference between "does not move yet" and "starts to move", which condition has to be satisfied to not move?
 
mfb said:
It is not that simple. Two questions that might help:
What is the water pressure at the horizontal part?
What is the difference between "does not move yet" and "starts to move", which condition has to be satisfied to not move?

We weren't given any of that info. Just threw this question on us...
 
This is something you should find out! The given information is sufficient to do so.
You'll also need the density of water and the gravitational acceleration g but those are well-known values.
 
mfb said:
This is something you should find out! The given information is sufficient to do so.
You'll also need the density of water and the gravitational acceleration g but those are well-known values.

He's basically disappeared until the exam, so there isn't a thing I could do sadly.
 
lvluffinz said:
He's basically disappeared until the exam, so there isn't a thing I could do sadly.

You can use the hints that you've been given in the thread and the hints I sent you via PM to draw the FBD and start working out the forces and moments. We require that you show effort on your schoolwork here before we can offer tutorial help...
 
berkeman said:
You can use the hints that you've been given in the thread and the hints I sent you via PM to draw the FBD and start working out the forces and moments. We require that you show effort on your schoolwork here before we can offer tutorial help...
Doing that right now!
 
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I'm not sure I understand the diagram. I think the gate is an L shape, but the gap between the hinge and the vertical part bothers me.
 
haruspex said:
I'm not sure I understand the diagram. I think the gate is an L shape, but the gap between the hinge and the vertical part bothers me.

Yeah, I think it's drawn incorrectly as well. I mentioned that to the OP in a private conversation we were having, and I probably should have posted it in-thread as well.
 
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Should have updated this thread, but I've figured it out. Solved it and all! I'll post the answer later tomorrow as I'm about to head to bed for my exam!

EDIT: I just scanned my working pretty quick and snipped it. will post here.
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I get the same.
 
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