Need help solving Doppler Effect with sound question

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The discussion revolves around solving a Doppler Effect problem involving an ambulance's siren frequency as it approaches and then passes a moving car. The initial frequency of the siren is 1022 Hz, and after passing, it drops to 981 Hz while the car is traveling at 15.0 m/s. The participant initially miscalculated the ambulance's speed but later corrected their approach by considering the relative motion with respect to the air. After applying the correct Doppler effect equations, they determined the ambulance's speed to be 22 m/s, which is confirmed as correct. The conversation highlights the importance of accounting for both the source and observer's velocities in Doppler Effect calculations.
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Homework Statement


As you drive at a speed of 15.0 m/s an ambulance approaches you from behind with its siren blaring at a frequency of 1022 Hz. After the ambulance has passed you the signal is now 981 Hz. If both you and the ambulance travel at a constant speed how fast was the ambulance traveling?

A. 16.0 m/s
B. 18.0 m/s
C. 20.0 m/s
D. 22.0 m/s
E. 24.0 m/s

Homework Equations


f0=fs(1/(1+vs/v))

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured I could use the ambulance's speed relative to the car, so I used the above equation for when a source is moving away from a stationary observer. I plugged in all the variables an solved for vs. I ended up getting vs being equal to 14.33. I then assumed since the speed was calculated with the car having a speed of 0 m/s, I simply added the speed of the car. That got me 29.33 m/s, which doesn't happen to be an answer choice. What am I doing wrong? Thank you so much!
 
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Doppler effect of sound does not depend on the relative velocities alone, you cannot find the relative velocity without taking into account that you move relative to the air.
 
So which equation would I use?
 
You can still use this equation, but you have to apply it first to the ambulance (relative to the air) and then to you (relative to their air).
 
how do you apply it relative to the air?
 
Okay so I did this, and got 22 m/s. Is this correct?

Sorry for the messy handwriting
 

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isn't the original equation fo=fs(1+- vo/v)/(1+-vs/v)
 
hopelessphysics said:
isn't the original equation fo=fs(1+- vo/v)/(1+-vs/v)
That's both steps (ambulance and our car) combined, yes.

22m/s is correct.
 
Thank you so much!
 
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