Net torque of a person's shoulder, holding a weight

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net torque about a person's shoulder while holding a 5.86 kg steel ball with a 66.2 cm arm that weighs 5.56 kg. The torque is determined by considering the forces acting on the arm, specifically the weights of the arm and the ball, while noting that the normal force does not contribute to torque since it acts at the pivot point. The calculation involves using the formula for torque, leading to a net torque of -38.0 Nm, with the negative sign indicating a clockwise rotation. The user expresses confusion about the torque directions and seeks clarification on their calculations. The overall thought process is deemed correct, suggesting that a re-evaluation of the final calculation may resolve the issue.
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Homework Statement


"An athlete at the gym holds a 5.86 kg steel ball in his hand. His arm is 66.2 cm long and has a mass of 5.56 kg. What is the magnitude of the torque about his shoulder if he holds his arm straight out to his side, parallel to the floor?"


Homework Equations


torque = Frsin(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


I drew the diagram, having the shoulder as the pivot point. There are three forces acting on the arm -
(1) the normal (90 deg to the pivot, pointing UPWARDS)
(2) weight of the arm (90 deg to the arm, pointing DOWN)
(3) weight of steel ball (90 deg to the arm, pointing DOWN)

Since they want to calculate the torque on the shoulder, the normal doesn't produce a torque since it's acting from the pivot point. Where "t" is torque, the equation is:
t(net) = -t(arm) - t(ball)
I made the torques of the arm and ball negative because they would rotate clockwise around the pivot point.

t(net) = -W(arm)*r - W(ball)*r
= -m(arm)g*r - m(ball)g*r
= -(5.56)(9.8)(0.331) - (5.86)(9.8)(0.662)
= -38.0 Nm

I got the value for the distance of the weight of the arm because the centre of mass always acts at the centre of the object... so I divided the full arm's length by two, to get that value of r=0.331m

I'm still getting the wrong answer, and I'm not sure why... I always have difficulty with torque directions. Did I do sometihng wrong?
 
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So what is the problem?
 
Try crunching that last calculation one more time. I think you will find your problem. Your thought process is correct.
 
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