What Is the Maximum Angle Before Crutches Slip on the Floor?

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum angle θMAX at which crutches can be positioned before slipping occurs, given a static friction coefficient of 0.90. Participants clarify that the normal force acting on each crutch is equal to half the weight of the person, represented as mg/2. The normal force is also expressed as Fcosθ, which varies with the angle. It is emphasized that forces should be treated as vectors, requiring separate equations for horizontal and vertical components. The conversation encourages further questions and clarifications on the topic.
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The person in the drawing is standing on crutches. Assume that the force exerted on each crutch by the ground is directed along the crutch, as the force vectors in the drawing indicate. If the coefficient of static friction between a crutch and the ground is 0.90, determine the largest angle θMAX that the crutch can have just before it begins to slip on the floor.

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μ = 0.90
Ff = (Fn)μ
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I know that I am missing a force for the problem to work, but I have thought about it for awhile and I can't seem to picture it. The normal force is supposed to be a force that is perpendicular to the surface...does that mean the normal force is Fcosθ? Is there supposed to be another force in the 4th quadrant? If yes, what is that force? Is it the force of the man pushing down on the crutch? If yes, does the force equal to F then?
 
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The person in the drawing is standing on crutches. Assume that the force exerted on each crutch by the ground is directed along the crutch, as the force vectors in the drawing indicate. If the coefficient of static friction between a crutch and the ground is 0.90, determine the largest angle θMAX that the crutch can have just before it begins to slip on the floor.

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μ = 0.90
Ff = (Fn)μ


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I know that I am missing a force for the problem to work, but I have thought about it for awhile and I can't seem to picture it. The normal force is supposed to be a force that is perpendicular to the surface...does that mean the normal force is Fcosθ? Is there supposed to be another force in the 4th quadrant? If yes, what is that force? Is it the force of the man pushing down on the crutch? If yes, does the force equal to F then?

Intersting situation.
Yes Normal force = Fcosθ , but interestingly, the normal force is mg/2 as well, since each crutch has to support half the man's weight.
So as the angle changes, F becomes bigger.
 
When dealing with problems like this, it is very important to remember that forces are not scalar numbers, but vectors, and therefore have magnitude and direction. As such you have:

\vec{F}=F_x \hat{i} + F_y \hat{j}

Thus you can have 2 equations:

\sum{F_x} = (Something)
\sum{F_y} = (Something)

Let us know if you get stuck again. We'll be glad to assist. :smile:
 
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