Wow, busy week. I haven't been able to get on as much as I wanted. So, I'm trying to catch up.
Alkatran, in your scenario with the tree and stuff, could you possibly include dnesity as a rate of emission and absorption of neutrinos to make it more realistic to the theory? That would help out a lot.
Pulling has no opposite force. You grab a doorknob and pull on it. It grabs you and pulls on you back? You push the doorknob. That propogates a force through the doorknob that pushes you back.
If neutrinos don't interact with the the electromagnetic forces, explain how they detect them? They interact by collision. This collision with an electron promotes decay. Through this decay a blue light cone is emitted. This is how neutrinos are detected, through interaction with electrons.
ArmoSkater87, positrons are what are theorized to make up part of the proton. When a collision occurs, this positron breaks off the proton and becomes the anti-particle to the electron.
Entropy, we all know that you think space-time curvature is gravity. So, you just think gravity is a geometric effect? Wouldn't space-time curvature throw out gravity as one of the fundamental forces? As you said previously, "space-time curvature isn't a force." So, there are only three fundamental forces?
Brad Ad23, "gravitational" lensing can be explained int he push theory. Take a beam of light, it is approaching a dense object. This dense object absorbs neutrinos, allowing less to pass through. The beam of light is over the dense object. It is being hit by more neutrinos on the top than bottom. This cause the light beam to bend at an angle.
chroot said:
And indeed, if there were neutrinos pushing you from every direction at once, there'd be no gravity at all -- the net force would be zero.
- Warren
Wrong.
Neutrinos are all over. Since they travel at relativistic speeds, they interact with us constantly. If they pass through the earth, they do not cancel the affect of the sun. The neutrinos that pass through are outnumbered by the ones from the sun. The sun merely overpowers the nuetrinos that pass through. Net force is positive. Weigh is simply a term associated with the pull theory of gravity. The push theory does not regard weight. Neutrino direction is uniform until they go through emission and absorption. This alters the direction of the neutrino flow.
chroot said:
What we can't figure out, beatrix, is how all the other planets and stars know to push us one direction into the Earth at noon (away from the sun), and then to instead push us the other way at midnight (toward the sun). Six months later, the situation is reversed, though, and all the other planets and stars would have to somehow switch gears and send their neutrinos the other way.
How do you respond?
- Warren
They don't "know" when to push in one direction. The push in all directions. Emission and absorption is what makes a difference in the forces of neutrinos interacting. So, density is an ultimate factor determining emission and absorption. I've recently found a site that explains orbit through neutrinos interaction. Although, it is limited to the Earth moon system of orbiting. I'll be happy to give you the site, if you want it.
Dark matter is simply a pushing force. Neutrinos are what make up hot dark matter as beatrix kiddo said.
Alkatran said:
They say that almost all forces over distance are proportional to the inverse of distance squared because they have to expand on the surface of a sphere.
Let's put emphais on ALMOST. Not ALL forces over a distance are proportional to the inverse of distance squared. Neutrinos do not have to expand on the surface of a sphere. Light does, neutrinos don't.
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galaxies being held together
Neutrinos are said to interact through weak forces. What says that they can't interact with each other? Are they able to absorb each other energy, increasing their size? Oscillate as a consequence of this absorption?
As for the response on how neutrinos would account for opposite space-time curvature. Think of a hyperbola. This would account for opposite space-time curvature. Everything is pushed towards the center still. Pull allows everything to fall towards the center. It's the same thing except opposite.
I'm tired of saying stuff...I'll try to get on later and explain more.