Newton's 2nd law involving pulley

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The discussion revolves around Newton's 2nd law as it applies to a pulley system, specifically addressing the differences in acceleration between two boxes in such a system. Participants are exploring the conditions under which these differences occur.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are examining how the angle of the cable and the extensibility of the rope can affect the acceleration of the boxes. Questions are raised about the configurations of the ropes and how they influence the system's behavior.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into how different factors, such as the angle of the cable and the nature of the rope, can lead to varying accelerations. There is an exploration of specific examples and configurations, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive explanation.

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Participants are considering the implications of inextensible versus extensible ropes and how these properties affect the acceleration of different components in the pulley system. The complexity of the system's arrangement is acknowledged, but specific details about the configurations remain under discussion.

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I came across some questions where one box's magnitude of acceleration differed from another box's magnitude of acceleration. Please explain why and how this can be true.
Thank you.
 
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This can happen when the cable is not pulling in line with the box. That is the cable is pulling at some angle with respect to the direction of motion of the box.
 
if the rope is extensible can also give u this result rite?
 
Depending upon the specific arrangement, not all parts of a pulley system move at the same rate. For example: When a pulley system gives you a mechanical advantage, the applied force must travel a greater distance than the load. If that applied force is given by a hanging box, its acceleration will be greater than the acceleration of the load. (You can figure this out by studying the configuration of the ropes.)
 
How could you know which configuration of the ropes will give that condition?
 
As an example, conside a block sliding along a plane, a taut rope fixed to it going about a fixed pulley, then downwards and around a movable pulley, the rope then going upwards to be fixed in the ceiling.

In this case, inextensibility of rope requires that the acceleration of the movable pulley is only one-half of the acceleration of the block.
 
Can inextensibility of rope also make acceleration of the movable pulley decrease to one-third, one-fourth, etc.?
 

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