Newton's Laws with Friction: Two Blocks

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The discussion focuses on calculating the contact force between two blocks on a frictionless table under different applied forces. In Part 1, with a force F applied to M2, the calculated contact force is 3.914 N, while in Part 2, when the same force is applied to M1 in the opposite direction, the contact force is 1.85 N. Participants confirm that the acceleration of the system is consistent at 1.151 m/s², and the approach involves isolating each mass to determine the forces. Clarification is sought on how to approach the second part of the problem, specifically regarding the application of forces in opposite directions. The conversation highlights common challenges in understanding Newton's laws in scenarios involving multiple objects and forces.
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Homework Statement



Part 1

Two blocks are in contact on a frictionless table. A horizontal force F is applied to M2, as shown. If M1 = 1.03 kg, M2 = 3.40 kg, and F = 5.10 N, find the size of the contact force between the two blocks.

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Part 2

If instead an equal but oppositely directed force is applied to M1 rather than M2, find the size of the contact force between the two blocks.


Homework Equations



I'm pretty sure F=MA is the equation to use.


The Attempt at a Solution



For this, I looked at the system as a whole, summed the masses and found the acceleration of the entire system.

I found this to be a=1.151m/s^2

I then isolated mass 2 and mass 1 to find the forces for part 1 and 2 respectively. I obtained the answers : 3.914N for part 1 and 1.85N for part 2.

Where am I going wrong?
 
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Net force acting on M1 is (the applied force F1 - reaction F2 from the mass M1)
Your acceleration is correct, and it is common for both.
So the acceleration of M1 = (F1 - F2)/M1 = a.
F1 is given. Find F2. Repeat the same thing in the opposite direction.
 
Ok, I got the first part, thanks!

The second part is still tripping me up though. What do you mean when you say do the opposite?
 
melv14 said:
Ok, I got the first part, thanks!

The second part is still tripping me up though. What do you mean when you say do the opposite?
Force is acted on M1 first.
 
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