Normal Force - riding over a hill

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a bicycle and rider going over a circular hump. The original poster is trying to understand the equation used to calculate the normal force at the top of the hump, given specific parameters such as mass, radius, and speed.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about the derivation of the equation used to find the normal force. Participants discuss the forces acting on the bicyclist at the top of the hill, including the normal force and gravitational force, and how they relate to centripetal force.

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Some participants have provided explanations regarding the forces involved and how they contribute to the equation in question. The original poster indicates that the clarification has improved their understanding, suggesting a productive exchange of ideas.

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The original poster is preparing for an exam and is concerned about their understanding of the concepts related to the problem. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity around the application of forces in circular motion.

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Homework Statement



I am studying for my physics exam on tuesday and i came across this question and i am not sure why this equation was used.

A bicycle and bicyclist of combined mass 62 kg go over a circular hump of radius 6.0 m at a speed of 5.0 m/s. What is the normal force on the bicycle at the top of the hump?

The Attempt at a Solution



The equation used and answer is..

n - mg = - (mv2)/r

n = - [(62*(52))/6] + (62*9.8)

n = 349 N

Can anyone explain why or how to come up with this equation used. I am confused on how and where this comes from. I would have never of thought to do this and would have probably gotten it wrong if it was on the test so any clarification to help me understand would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you :)
 
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At the top of the hill, if you draw a FBD, the normal reaction N acts upwards and the weight mg acts downwards.

The resultant of these two must be sufficient such that they keep him in contact with the hill.

For that to happen, the resultant in the direction of the weight must be the centripetal force, else the resultant is opposite of the weight, which would mean the boy would fly off of the hill.

Hence mg-N= mv2/r

Does it make a little more sense now?
 
Two forces act on the bicyclist.
i) Normal force N acting in the upward direction due to centripetal force.
ii) weight mg in the down ward direction.
So net centripetal force acting on him in the downward direction is
N - mg = -(mv^2)/R
 
Yes That makes more sense. I guess that's a little easier and not as complex as i was making it out to be.

Thank you :)
 

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