Nuclear Eng. - Control Rod step requirements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a nuclear engineering problem involving the calculation of control rod motion required to change the power level of a reactor from 5% to 18%. Participants explore the necessary equations and concepts, including the significance of temperature differences and reactivity units, while addressing the challenges faced due to a lack of resources and background knowledge.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the equations needed to solve the problem and mentions a lack of resources, including textbooks.
  • Another participant suggests that understanding the question is crucial and questions the meaning of "pcm" and the transition from primary to secondary systems.
  • A participant clarifies that "pcm" refers to a unit of reactivity and speculates on the significance of the primary to secondary transition in the context of heat generation.
  • One participant proposes breaking down the problem into smaller steps, focusing on the temperature difference required for the power level change.
  • Another participant calculates a potential relationship between temperature difference and control rod steps, arriving at a negative number of steps and questioning its physical meaning.
  • There is a suggestion that the 50°F temperature difference might correspond to a full power change from 0% to 100%.
  • A participant expresses frustration over the clarity of the discussion and questions whether the problem-solving process is productive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the approach to solving the problem, and multiple viewpoints regarding the interpretation of the data and the necessary calculations remain. The discussion reflects uncertainty and varying levels of understanding among participants.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding due to the absence of a textbook and the complexity of the problem. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the relationship between temperature differences and power levels.

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How many steps of Bank D rod motion will be required to change power level from 5% to 18%? Assume that the full power Delta T from primary to secondary is 50 degrees F. Assume the moderator temperature coefficient is -5 pcm/degree F. Assume the Bank D rod worth is 5 pcm/step. Neglect fuel temperature changes.



I don't even know what equations to use, nor can I find them anywhere. There is also NO textbook for this class, so everything is done via google search.
 
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You are not at the stage of needing any equations. I suspect that this problem is one of those where once you understand the question you'll recognize you have the answer; where most of the difficulty lies in just understanding the question.

First you have to master the language of the question. What is "pcm"? What is the significance of transitioning from primary into secondary? (I don't know. I'm asking you to explain.)
 
Btw, I'm not asking for an answer to just simply be given to me, but I do need to stress that I have no clue how to do this. I took a class with zero background in nuclear because it is supposed to be a ramp-up course for non-nuclear engineers. I'm in way over my head, and with no textbook and hardly any online references, going to a forum is my last resort. So if you do know how to do this problem, I would appreciate your guidance.

That said, all I know is that pcm is a unit of reactivity. As to the significance from primary to secondary, I imagine it means the reaction generating heat on the primary side in the reactor transitioning to the steam generator and producing steam for the secondary side. But I think that is getting off track.
 
Let's break it down into small mangeable steps. If I can recast the essential part, see how you go with this sub-question ...

How many degrees F difference will be required to change power level from 5% to 18%? Assume that the full power Delta T from primary to secondary is 50 degrees F.

All the information you need is contained within the blue box above ^^^^^^
 
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Well at full power, the delta T is is 50 deg. I would assume it would change based on power level. But since the problem doesn't give that information, and you are hinting that it doesnt, then I imagine there is a 50 degrees F difference.

In which case, this problem becomes a unit cancellation problem?
If so, we have:
(50 deg) * (-5 pcm/deg) = -250 pcm
(-250 pcm) * (1 step / 5 pcm) = -50 steps.

Does -50 steps make sense? Does that mean the rod is moved out of the core 50 steps in order to increase power from 5% to 18%?
 
I'm guessing that the 50°F corresponds to the power level changing from 0% to 100%.
 
I'm sorry to be blunt but do you know how to do this problem or not? Because if not then this isn't productive, and if so, then your subtleties are being lost on me and it's still not productive.. are you trying to work through it with me haha?
 

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