Optimizing Phase Current Measurements with Shunt Resistors

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The discussion focuses on measuring phase currents using shunt resistors, highlighting confusion regarding the connection for phase Ia compared to Ib and Ic. The unique wiring for Ia may provide advantages in fault detection for phase currents, particularly when the sum of the currents does not equal zero. An application note, referenced in the conversation, provides detailed guidance on this measurement method. The current sum is integral to a hardware over-current detector, with the ability to compute individual phase currents through software. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding channel notations and their implications for accurate current measurement and fault detection.
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To understand the logic of phase current measurement in 3 phase AC motors using shunt resistors from a reference application note.
I have seen an application note of how to measure the phase currents using shunt resistors as shown below
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I am only confused with the connection when measuring the phase Ia current, it differs from the way the shunt resistor is connected for Ic and Ib, he could have done the same way like Ib and Ic. Is there any advantage doing like this? By using Ia he was also able to detect the fault in the phase currents? My question is what are the conditions under which the phase currents can be wrong like one condition i can think of is
a. Ia+Ib+Ic ##\neq ## 0.
 
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The asymmetric wiring does seem very deliberate.
PhysicsTest said:
I have seen an application note of how to measure the phase currents using shunt resistors as shown below
Can you please give a reference to the application note.
Do you have a link ?
 
Baluncore said:
The asymmetric wiring does seem very deliberate.

Can you please give a reference to the application note.
Do you have a link ?
Yes, Thank you, please find the attachment of the application note, i am referring to the page no 34. The link for the same is
https://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/ProductDetails/dm330021-2
 

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The current sum is part of a hardware over-current detector.
The current sum can also be read by software.
Channels 2 or 3 current can be read with software.
Channel 1 current can be computed from Isum - I1 - I2.
 
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Baluncore said:
The current sum can also be read by software.
Channels 2 or 3 current can be read with software.
Channel 1 current can be computed from Isum - I1 - I2.
Thank you. I am confused about the channel notations, but i assume that Channel 1 -> I3, Channel 2 -> I1,
Channel3 -> I2. The hardware notation followed for measurement of current is different, since they want to incorporate all the three phase currents to detect the over current fault is my understanding.
Baluncore said:
The current sum is part of a hardware over-current detector.
This is based on the system, in this it corresponds to the voltage of ##3.3*30/31.5= 3.14V ##. Hence the ##I_{sum} - I_1 - I_2 =I_3## one of the phase currents exceeds this value then it detects the over-current?
 
Sorry for the earlier typo;
Notice that the outputs from the differential current sense amplifiers are referenced to Vref, which is half of the AVDD voltage = 3.3V / 2 = 1.65 volt.
 
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