Orthogonal Projection and Reflection: Finding the Image of a Point x = (4,3)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of orthogonal projection related to a specific matrix and its application to a point in a geometric context. The original poster is attempting to find the orthogonal projection of a point using a matrix derived from a reflection operation.

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  • Participants discuss the meaning of orthogonal projection on a matrix, with some suggesting it relates to projecting onto subspaces spanned by the matrix's eigenvectors. Others express confusion about the terminology and the specific nature of the problem.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of orthogonal projection and questioning the original problem's clarity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to clarify the subspace involved in the projection.

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There is uncertainty regarding the definition of "orthogonal projection on a matrix" and the specifics of the reflection mentioned in the original problem statement. Participants note the importance of having a clear problem statement to proceed effectively.

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Homework Statement



|-1/2 -sqrt(3)/2 |
|sqrt(3)/2 -1/2 |


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I don't know

The Attempt at a Solution


Hey everyone, I've been asked to find the "orthogonal projection" on this matrix, this is part B to a question; part A had me use matrix multiplication to find the image of the point x = (4,3) under the reflection of 120 degrees with the positive x-axis. The above matrix was what I came up with, before multipying by x to get some irrational values, of course. But I haven't a clue how to perform orthogonal projection, if anyone could help I'd appreciate it.

Serenity now :0)
 
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The only thing that comes to my mind is the operator ## M M^\dagger ## which is equal to ## MM^T## in your case because all the entries are real.
 
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Shyan said:
The only thing that comes to my mind is the operator ## M M^\dagger ## which is equal to ## MM^T## in your case because all the entries are real.
thanks m8
 
What does "orthogonal projection on a matrix" even mean?
 
micromass said:
What does "orthogonal projection on a matrix" even mean?
Yeah...that's the question. I don't know why ## |M\rangle\langle M| ## came to my mind.
Now that I think it, it seems to me its the orthogonal projection onto the subspace spanned by the matrix's eigenvectors. If that's the case, at first the eigenvectors should be found. Calling them u and v, the projector is ## uu^\dagger+vv^\dagger ##.
 
micromass said:
What does "orthogonal projection on a matrix" even mean?
I don't know, hence the question.
 
Shyan said:
Yeah...that's the question. I don't know why ## |M\rangle\langle M| ## came to my mind.
Now that I think it, it seems to me its the orthogonal projection onto the subspace spanned by the matrix's eigenvectors. If that's the case, at first the eigenvectors should be found. Calling them u and v, the projector is ## uu^\dagger+vv^\dagger ##.
We went over it today in lecture, AA^T is all I needed.

Math texts and mathematicians have an incredible way of overcomplicating simple concepts.
 
You don't project onto matrices. You project onto subspaces. If the problem doesn't specify which one, you have to find out from the person who asked you to do this. If it's a problem in a book, there should be a definition of the terminology somewhere in the book.

I also don't know what you mean by "reflection of 120 degrees with the positive x-axis". Are you talking about a reflection through the line you get if you rotate the positive x-axis 120 degrees counterclockwise?

You should post the exact problem statement.
 
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