Oscillations - mass suspended from string

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to oscillations involving a mass suspended from a string. The initial equation presented incorrectly assumes a fixed acceleration, which is not characteristic of oscillatory motion. Participants suggest that the user should incorporate a variable for extension and consider the forces acting on the mass for an arbitrary displacement. The correct approach involves deriving the differential equation and using the appropriate formula for the radian frequency, w, based on the spring constant and mass. Ultimately, the user is advised to clarify their variables and understand the mathematics behind the oscillatory motion to arrive at the correct solution.
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Homework Statement


the answer is a for this question. but i don't understand how to get the solution.


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mg-k(l-a+b)=ma

since mg=k(l-a)

-kb=ma

a=-(k/m)b

k/m=a/b

so my ans is sqrt root( a/b)
 

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Hi, desmond. Welcome to the forum.

a, b, and l are constants, so the equation you came up with shows a fixed, constant acceleration. As you realize, this isn't correct; a fixed acceleration is not a characteristic of oscillatory motion. Somewhere in that equation you'd need a variable x which is the extension at any moment.

It might be easier if you were to start with the options, and maybe eliminate them one by one? Look for a reason why any particular option could not be the formula for ω2.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Hi, desmond. Welcome to the forum.

a, b, and l are constants, so the equation you came up with shows a fixed, constant acceleration. As you realize, this isn't correct; a fixed acceleration is not a characteristic of oscillatory motion. Somewhere in that equation you'd need a variable x which is the extension at any moment.

It might be easier if you were to start with the options, and maybe eliminate them one by one? Look for a reason why any particular option could not be the formula for ω2.

so if the option of (a/b) is given, can i choose it?
 
Try getting to the differential equation given in the problem by considering what forces are acting on the mass for an arbitrary displacement.
 
Orodruin said:
Try getting to the differential equation given in the problem by considering what forces are acting on the mass for an arbitrary displacement.

can you explain further?
 
desmond iking said:
can you explain further?
Do you understand the mathematics behind x with a pair of dots above it, as it appears in the textbook question in your attachment? (Sometimes it is written x’’ )
 
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desmond iking said:
so if the option of (a/b) is given, can i choose it?
Choose it if you wish. It's wrong though.

Oh, I just noticed: aren't you using the letter "a" for two different things in your equations in this thread??
 
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Hint: determine the spring constant k, then use the formula for radian frequency w of a mass bobbing up & down:
w = w(k,m).

If you don't know the formula you'll have to proceed per post #4.
 
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