Overall heat transfer coefficient for water cooling

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The discussion revolves around analyzing the overall heat transfer coefficient (U) for a water cooling system in a fermenter. The user notes that U varies significantly between the initial extreme cooling phase and the subsequent fermentation stage, where bacterial activity may generate additional heat. Suggestions include the possibility that the mean temperature difference used in calculations may not be appropriate, and the log mean temperature difference (LMTD) could provide more accurate results. Additionally, it is highlighted that U is not a constant and can fluctuate based on varying conditions during the process. Understanding these factors is crucial for accurately calculating heat transfer in water cooling systems.
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Hi all!

I'm analyzing a fermenter and the water cooling system that cools it down.

In analyzing this I've found kW and kWh required to cool down the fermenter using Q = dt*cp*m

However when I try to find the overall heat transfer coefficient U using the data, I find that it varies with either Q or M.

I use the equation: Q = A*U*dtm

At first Q is high due to an extreme cooling from 121 C to 35 C. After that during bacterial fermentation the temperature should stay the same. However this second stage gives me a lower U-value (twice) than during the extreme cooling in the beginning. Does any of you have a suggestion to why this is happening?

Can you at all use this formula to calculate a heat transfer coefficient for water cooling systems, or can it only be applied for heat exchangers?
 
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Hello andrejen, :welcome:

Could it be the bacterial fermentation itself produces heat ?

You want to be a bit clearer in your typing: m means the same as M (I think) and dtm is not dt times m but the mean delta t.

Could also be that mean delta t is not good for the expression and you need the log mean delta t (aka LMTD).

Furthermore, U doesn't have to be an all-over constant and in your case depends on variables that vary.

There is a very thorough book by the VDI : http://link.springer.com/referencework/10.1007%2F978-3-540-32218-4 that might help you if you can get hold of it. I think the text is parallel in german and english.
 
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andrejen88 said:
At first Q is high due to an extreme cooling from 121 C to 35 C. After that during bacterial fermentation the temperature should stay the same. However this second stage gives me a lower U-value (twice) than during the extreme cooling in the beginning. Does any of you have a suggestion to why this is happening?

+1 to what BvU said about the fermentation producing heat. If you want the temperature to remain constant it shouldn't need any cooling unless there is a heat source.
 
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