Overdamped Condition of m\ddot{x}+\dot{x}+kx=0 Equation

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to determine the overdamped condition of an equation. The condition is met when the eigenvalues are real and different. It is also mentioned that the equation can be rewritten in the form of ##m\ddot{x}+\gamma\dot{x}=f(x)## to determine the values of ##f(x)## and ##\gamma##. The speaker also asks if the same approach can be applied to nonlinear equations, to which the response is that it depends on the desired outcome. If the solution to the linearized equation is needed, then linearization is necessary, but if the solution to the nonlinear equation is desired, linearization is not necessary.
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How to get overdamping condition of equation
[tex]m\ddot{x}+\dot{x}+kx=0,[/tex]
Taking ##x=\mbox{e}^{\lambda t}##, we got
[tex]\lambda_{1/2}=\frac{-1 \pm \sqrt{1-4mk}}{2m}.[/tex]
Is it possible from this ##\lambda## values to got overdamped condition?
I found that if we have equation
[tex]m \ddot{x}+\gamma \dot{x}=f(x),[/tex]
then ##-4m\frac{\partial f}{\partial x} \leq \gamma^2## is overdamped condition. How to find it? Any help?
 
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Hint: The overdamped condition is just that your eigenvalues are real and different. What does that translate to?

Also, you can easily rewrite your equation on this form:
LagrangeEuler said:
[tex]m \ddot{x}+\gamma \dot{x}=f(x),[/tex]
What do you get for ##f(x)## and ##\gamma## when doing so?
 
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Orodruin said:
Hint: The overdamped condition is just that your eigenvalues are real and different.

This is precisely the correct answer. There is really nothing more to be said.
 
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Thanks a lot. Do you have some references for that?
 
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And one more question. What if equation is nonlinear
[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}+\sin y=0[/tex]
Should I linearized equation first or what?
 
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What you should do first depends upon what you want to accomplish. If you want the solution to the linearized equation, by all means proceed to linearize it. If, on the other hand, you want the solution to the nonlinear equation, linearization is simply wasted effort.
 

1. What is the overdamped condition in the equation m&ddot;x + ˙x + kx = 0?

The overdamped condition in this equation refers to a scenario where the damping coefficient (b) is greater than the critical damping coefficient (2√mk). This results in a slow decay of the oscillations in the system.

2. How does the overdamped condition affect the behavior of the system?

In the overdamped condition, the system behaves like a heavily damped spring, where there are no oscillations and the system returns to equilibrium slowly without overshooting. This results in a smooth and gradual decrease in amplitude.

3. How is the overdamped condition different from the underdamped and critically damped conditions?

In the underdamped and critically damped conditions, the damping coefficient is lower than the critical damping coefficient, resulting in oscillatory behavior. In the underdamped condition, the oscillations continue indefinitely, while in the critically damped condition, the oscillations eventually die out.

4. What are some real-life examples of systems exhibiting overdamped behavior?

Some examples of systems that exhibit overdamped behavior include car suspensions, shock absorbers, and doors with heavy hinges. In these systems, the heavy damping prevents excessive oscillations and ensures a smooth return to equilibrium.

5. Can the overdamped condition be achieved in any system?

Yes, the overdamped condition can be achieved in any system by adjusting the damping coefficient to be greater than the critical damping coefficient. However, for some systems, it may not be desirable as it results in slower response times and reduced efficiency.

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