Panel Structure vs. Solid Rod Structure

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The discussion centers on the stiffness comparison between a hollow panel structure and a solid rod structure made from the same material. It is suggested that the panel structure may be stiffer due to the support provided by interconnected panels, while the solid rod structure only has support at its ends. However, it is noted that for optimal stiffness, structural members should ideally avoid bending, relying instead on tension or compression. The conversation also touches on the concept of monocoque versus spaceframe designs, indicating that a properly designed hollow box can achieve a higher stiffness-to-weight ratio. Understanding deformation under vertical load is acknowledged as more complex for the panel structure compared to the rod structure.
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Hi Everyone,

I have a question about panel vs. solid rod structures.

Assume a two cubes of equal dimension and weight.

Cube 1 is made of panels, ie. a hollow cube.

Cube 2 is made with solid rod

Material is linear elastic


Which would be stiffer?

I think the panel structure would be the stiffer structure because each panel is supported by another resisting bending. In the rod structure, the rod is only supported at the ends.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

Cheers.
 
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Futher to this,

I have forgotten a lot from my engineering degree,

How would you work out the deformation of the cube under a verticle load?

I think I can do it for the rod structure but not the panel structure.

Cheers
 
As with all things, it depends on the exact materiel and construction.

It appears you are describing a monocoque vs spaceframe. The stressed skin has the potential to have much higher stiffness to weight ratio.
If it's just a box, with 12 structural members along the edges, the proper hollow box will be stiffer. This is because a cube would need to be cross braced.The 'resisting bending' idea is the right concept but wrong direction. For a stiff structure you ideally want no member experiencing any bending, so any 'bending' is eventually taken by a member in tension or compression.
 
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