Parallel electric plate question

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The discussion revolves around two problems involving charged particles (an alpha particle and an electron) moving between parallel electric plates. The first problem concerns the velocity of an alpha particle released from a positive plate with a specified voltage and distance. The second problem involves an electron moving from a negative plate toward a hole in a positive plate and passing through another set of parallel plates with different voltage and dimensions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the magnitude of the electric field and the equations relating force, acceleration, and velocity. There are suggestions to draw diagrams to visualize the electric field lines and geometry. Some participants express confusion about the second problem and seek clearer hints or guidance.

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Some participants have made progress on the first problem, while the second problem remains challenging for others. Hints related to conservation of energy and the steps to analyze the electron's motion in the electric field have been provided, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of electric fields, forces on charged particles, and the application of conservation of energy principles. There is a noted struggle with vector components in the second problem, which may affect their understanding of the motion involved.

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1. If an alpha particle (q=+2e, m = 6.64*10^-27kg) is released from the positive plate (Vab=120V and the distance separating the plates is 12cm), with what velocity will it hit the negative plate?


2. An electron is fired from a negative plate toward a hole in a positive plate. It then passes between two parallel plates that are 3cm long and 2cm apart with a voltage of 550Volts across them. If the accelerating voltage across the two original plates is 900 volts what is the final velocity of the eletron?


Ooooh my head spins. I haven't the slightest clue where to start. Could someone give me a hint?
 
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-1- What is the magnitude of the electric field in that region? What is the equation for the force on a charged particle due to an E field? What equation relates force and acceleration. What equation relates acceleration and velocity?

-2- Draw the geometry, and draw the E field lines. Use the equations from -1-.
 
Quick Hint:[itex]q\Delta V =[/itex]Change in Kinetic Energy
 
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Okay, so I got the first one... but the 2nd one boggles my mind. Could you give me a more... obvious hint? I tried doing vectors but that confused me even more...
 
silvercyanide88 said:
Okay, so I got the first one... but the 2nd one boggles my mind. Could you give me a more... obvious hint? I tried doing vectors but that confused me even more...

Using conservation of energy, you should be able to calculate the speed of the electron when it comes out of the original plates (this is the same as question 1).

Now let's pretend that the electron is moving along the x direction (with a v_x given by the speed you found just above) when it enters the second pair of plates (which are horizontally aligned so that the electric field between them is vertical).

the steps are:

a) figure out the E field between those two plates.
b) Figure out the electric force on the electron (which is a vertical force)
c) Find the vertical acceleration of the electron
d) using the velocity along the x direction, figure out how long it takes ti get across the plates

and then there is a last step that should be clear.

Patrick
 
Ah, yes. Thank you so much.
 

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