Parallel plates, calculate charges and E. fields without surface area?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the charges and electric fields between two parallel metal plates separated by a vacuum, with a given potential difference. The problem context involves concepts from electrostatics, specifically related to capacitors and electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the formula E = V/d to find the electric field and question how to apply Gauss' Law without a specified surface area. There are inquiries about the implications of surface charge density and its relation to the electric field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between electric field and surface charge density, while others are exploring the implications of missing surface area information. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the absence of surface area in the problem setup, which is critical for calculating charge density. Participants are also addressing discrepancies in the equations related to electric fields in parallel plate configurations.

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Homework Statement


two metal plates 10mm thin are held a distance 40mm apart with a P.D. 10V across them. +ve plate on left. In between the plates is a vacuum (free space basically). Calculate the charges and electric fields within this system.

Homework Equations


Q=VC
C = εo.A/d
No surface area given, so how to do it?

E = V/d can be done but is that what is asked for?

The Attempt at a Solution


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E = V/d gives you the electric field between the plates and you can use Gauss' Law to get the charge per unit area on each plate.
 
no surface area, bra`

ok so gauss' law is...
\nabla \cdot \mathbf{E} = \frac{\rho}{\varepsilon_0}

so how do I use that?
 
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SuckIt said:

Homework Statement


two metal plates 10mm thin are held a distance 40mm apart with a P.D. 10V across them. +ve plate on left. In between the plates is a vacuum (free space basically). Calculate the charges and electric fields within this system.


Homework Equations


Q=VC
C = εo.A/d
No surface area given, so how to do it?

E = V/d can be done but is that what is asked for?

So you can determine the electric field. Recall for parallel plates that

E = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_{0}}

Sigma is the surface charge density. In other words the amount of charge per area. How can you use these ideas for your problem?
 
The electric field inside a parallel plate capacitor:

buffordboy23 said:
E = \frac{\sigma}{2\epsilon_{0}}

My book doesn't have that 2 in the denominator.
 
mikelepore said:
The electric field inside a parallel plate capacitor:
My book doesn't have that 2 in the denominator.

Thank you. You are correct. The equation I gave was for the field due to a single plate. Since there are two plates superposition gives

<br /> E = \frac{\sigma}{\epsilon_{0}} <br />

for points internal to the plates.
 

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