Parallel vectors and scalar product rule

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem involving two parallel vectors, a = 2i + 3j and b = λi + 12j. The user initially attempts to apply the scalar product rule but arrives at an incorrect value for λ. After receiving feedback, they realize that simplifying the quadratic equation or recognizing that parallel vectors are multiples of each other would have led to a quicker solution. Ultimately, they find the correct value of λ to be 8 by using the relationship between the components of the vectors. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding vector properties in solving related problems efficiently.
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hey,
ive been given a problem where vector a = 2i + 3j and vector b = \lambdai + 12j and also told that these vectors are parallel of each other. i understand since the vectors are parallel of each other, the angle between them would be equal to zero, thus i could apply the scalar product rule to help solve this problem, which in this case i did.

My working:

<br /> \begin{array}{c}<br /> {\bf{a}} = 2{\bf{i}} + 3{\bf{j}} \\ <br /> {\bf{b}} = \lambda {\bf{i}} + 12{\bf{j}} \\ <br /> {\bf{a}}\parallel {\bf{b}} \\ <br /> \theta = 0 \\ <br /> \cos \theta = 1 \\ <br /> {\bf{a}} \cdot {\bf{b}} = \left| {\bf{a}} \right|\left| {\bf{b}} \right|\cos \theta \\ <br /> \left( {2{\bf{i}} + 3{\bf{j}}} \right) \cdot \left( {\lambda {\bf{i}} + 12{\bf{j}}} \right) = \left( {\sqrt {13} } \right)\left( {\sqrt {144 + \lambda ^2 } } \right)\left( 1 \right) \\ <br /> 2\lambda + 36 = \left( {\sqrt {13} } \right)\left( {\sqrt {144 + \lambda ^2 } } \right) \\ <br /> \left( {2\lambda + 36} \right)^2 = 13\left( {144 + \lambda ^2 } \right) \\ <br /> 4\lambda ^2 + 144\lambda + 1296 = 1872 + 13\lambda ^2 \\ <br /> - 9\lambda ^2 + 144\lambda - 576 = 0 \\ <br /> x = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \\ <br /> \lambda = \frac{{ - 144 \pm \sqrt {144^2 - 4\left( { - 9} \right)\left( { - 576} \right)} }}{{2\left( { - 576} \right)}} \\ <br /> \lambda = \frac{1}{8} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

this is the wrong answer i know, as the correct answer would result in \lambda being equal to eight, however i do not know how to obtain this answer, any help is greatly appriciated, thanks. sorry for the many post lately but i have a test comeing up which i really wish to do well into prove the teacher that i can do her subject. thanks once again,
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Check your working, it should be OK. The second last equation you quoted is right, but you didn't put the numbers in correctly.

Alternately, you can divide your quadratic by -9, then factorise it.
 
okay thanks for your help ill try that right now
 
hey that worked thanks~! i got the answer of 8 and -8. can i ask you why it didn't work when i used the quadratic formula? thanks
 
\lambda = \frac{{ - 144 \pm \sqrt {144^2 - 4\left( { - 9} \right)\left( { - 576} \right)} }}{{2\left( { - 9} \right)}}
One divided by 2c instead of 2a.

As Tomsk suggested, dividing through by -9 would have simplied the solution.

\lambda ^2 - 16\lambda + 64 = 0

Two vectors are parallel if one is a multiple of the other, i.e.

a i + b j = \lambdaa i + \lambdab j
 
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oh i see thanks, i feel so stupid now :blushing:
thanks once again,
Pavadrin
 
It would have been a lot simpler to use the fact that parallel vectors are multiples of each other from the start. You have:
2xi + 3xj = yi + 12j
3x = 12
x = 4
2x = y
y = 8
 
okay thanks, i was thinking that perhaps there was an easier way of solving the question but it never quite clicked, thanks
 
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