Particle shot from a height h on Earth

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The discussion focuses on determining the optimal elevation angle α for a cannon mounted on a tower to achieve maximum range when fired. The derived expression for this angle is csc²(α) = 2(1 + gh/V₀²). Participants explore the equations of motion and the relationship between the angle and range, noting that maximizing the range involves setting the derivative of the range equation with respect to α to zero. Suggestions include using implicit differentiation and completing the square to simplify the calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly manipulating the equations to find the maximum range effectively.
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Homework Statement


A cannon that is capable of firing a shell at speed V_0 is mounted on a vertical tower of height h that overlooks a level plain below.

(a) Show that the elevation angle \alpha at which the cannon must be set to achieve maximum range is given by the expression

csc^2(\alpha)=2(1+\frac {gh} {V_0^2})

(b) What is the maximum range R of the cannon?

Homework Equations



F=m\frac {d^2r} {dt^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



The only force on the particle is -mgk, so

m\frac{d^2r} {dt^2} = -mgk

\frac{d^2r} {dt^2} = -gk

\vec{v}=-gtk+v_0
\vec{r}=\frac {-gt} {2}k+v_0t+r_0

The initial velocity and position can be expressed as such

V_0=V_0cos(\alpha)i+V_0sin(\alpha)k
r_0=hk

Therefore vector r is

\vec{r}=V_0tcos(\alpha)i+(h+V_0tsin(\alpha)-\frac{gt^2} {2})k

In component form,

x=V_0tcos(\alpha)
z=(h+V_0tsin(\alpha)-\frac {gt^2} {2})k

when z=0 (taking just the postitive root of the quadratic formula because we are concerned about positive t)

t= \frac {V_0sin(\alpha) + \sqrt{V_0^2sin^2(\alpha)+2gh}} {g}

Plugging this into x, we get

x=V_0cos(\alpha)(\frac {V_0sin(\alpha)+\sqrt{V_0^2sin^2(\alpha)+2gh}} {g})

This is the equation of motion in the x direction. It seems to make sense because if the angle is 90 degrees, we get 0 distance traveled. When the angle is 0 degrees, the y component of the initial velocity cancels out to give something nice. My thinking from this point is that taking dx/da and setting it equal to 0 would give the angle that would make x a maximum. However, when I do this I get a horribly complicated equation that I can't figure out how to simplify. Am I on the right track?
 
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Dustgil said:
\vec{v}=-gtk+v_0
\vec{r}=\frac {-gt} {2}k+v_0t+r_0
Check the second equation. You got it right later so I guess it is just a typo.

The last equation looks good. The value of ##\alpha## maximizing this also corresponds to a value of ##\cos(\alpha)## maximizing this (and due to the range of ##\alpha## you don't have to deal with ambiguities like ##\pm 2 \pi##), so you can introduce a new variable ##p=\cos(\alpha)## and maximize x with respect to this one. That should make the expressions easier. Choosing ##p=\sin(\alpha)## could work as well.

You know the right answer already. You do not have to solve the equation, you just have to show that the answer works.
 
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So

\frac {dp} {d\alpha} = -sin\alpha

That would be correct right? I don't think I've done something like this exactly before. So if I plugged it in and got something like

\frac {dp} {d\alpha}p

That would equal one right? Sorry if that's a dumb question.
 
Dustgil said:
That would be correct right?
Yes, but it does not matter. If you substitute before taking the derivative with respect to p ##\alpha## does not appear any more.

-sin(α)cos(α) is not equal to 1.
 
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Homework Statement


A cannon that is capable of firing a shell at speed ##\ V_0 \ ## is mounted on a vertical tower of height ##\ h\ ## that overlooks a level plain below.

(a) Show that the elevation angle ##\ \alpha \ ## at which the cannon must be set to achieve maximum range is given by the expression
\csc^2(\alpha)=2\left(1+\frac {gh} {V_0^2}\right)
(b) What is the maximum range R of the cannon?
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The Attempt at a Solution


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Plugging this into x, we get
x=V_0\cos(\alpha)\left(\frac {V_0\sin(\alpha)+\sqrt{V_0^2\sin^2(\alpha)+2gh}} {g}\right)
This is the equation of motion in the x direction. It seems to make sense because if the angle is 90 degrees, we get 0 distance traveled. When the angle is 0 degrees, the y component of the initial velocity cancels out to give something nice. My thinking from this point is that taking dx/da and setting it equal to 0 would give the angle that would make x a maximum. However, when I do this I get a horribly complicated equation that I can't figure out how to simplify. Am I on the right track?
Assuming the last equation is correct, the following may help.

Solve for ##\displaystyle \ \sqrt{V_0^2\sin^2(\alpha)+2gh} \,.\ ##

Then square both sides and do a little cancelling/simplifying.

Use implicit differentiation & set ##\ dx / d\alpha =0 \ . ##

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Thanks mfb (for the "like"), but it didn't work out as well as I had hoped. Maybe I just didn't find a good way to eliminate x in the result .

You can get essentially the same thing my suggestion leads to, by completing the square in the expression for time, z = 0, then substituting the expression for x as a function of t. (Probably should be labeled t0 for the time to reach zero elevation.)
 
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