Pedagogical Machine: Solving Homework Equations

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the forces acting on three masses (m1, m2, m3) in a system influenced by an external force F. It establishes that for m2 to remain at rest relative to m1, m3 must also be stationary vertically, preventing any contradictions in their motion. The derived equation shows that the force F can be expressed as F = (m1 + m2 + m3)(m3/m2)g, leading to the conclusion that if m1, m2, and m3 are equal, F equals 3mg. The analysis also considers limiting cases, confirming that if m3 is absent, F should be zero, while if m2 is absent, an infinite force would be required to prevent m3 from free-falling. The discussion critiques the use of pseudo forces, suggesting they may mislead engineers about the nature of centrifugal forces.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


What we want is for m2 to be at rest relative to m1 because this implies m2 will not be sliding across the surface of m2 and this immediately implies m3 must be at rest in the vertical direction (in the lab frame and frame of m1 because there will be no pseudo forces in the vertical direction on m3) because if m3 was not at rest vertically then m2 would be slipping along m1 while m1 was moving which is a contradiction if we assume m2 is at rest with respect to m1 while m1 is moving. Boosting to a frame co - moving with m1 we have that in this frame, m_{2}a_{2} = F_{apparent} = T - m_{2}a = 0 where a = \frac{F}{m_{1} + m_{2} + m_{3}} is the acceleration of the entire apparatus (and consequently m2 since they all move together under F). As noted above, this immediately implies m_{3}a_{3} = T - m_{3}g = 0 so combining this together we have that m_{3}g = m_{2}a so F = (m_{1} + m_{2} + m_{3})(\frac{m3}{m2})g. If I take m1 = m2 = m3 = m then F = 3mg as stated in the ans. clue. I also checked the limiting cases m3 = 0 which gives F = 0 as it should because if there is no m3 then m2 will be at rest even in the lab frame so we don't need any force on m1. If m2 = 0 then F = infinity which makes sense since if m2 = 0, m3 will go into free fall and the only way to stop it from going into free fall using a horizontal force would be an infinite one that accelerates it in the horizontal direction so fast that it doesn't get a chance to fall (this is unphysical of course). Is the solution right? Thanks!
 
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I analyzed it from the stationary frame where all masses share a common acceleration and got the same results.
I dislike working with pseudo forces because it encourages engineers to believe centrifugal forces are real.
 
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