Periodicity properties of complex exponentials in discrete/continuous time

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The discussion centers on the periodicity of complex exponentials in discrete and continuous time. In continuous time, the periodicity condition allows for any real value of ω/2π, leading to a fundamental period of T0 = 2π/ω. In contrast, discrete time requires ω/2π to be rational for the periodicity condition to hold, as demonstrated by the equation e^(jωN) = 1. This is because non-rational values would not yield integer multiples of 2π, preventing periodicity. The key difference lies in the nature of time intervals in discrete versus continuous systems, where discrete time necessitates integer multiples for periodicity.
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hello I have a question about the periodicity of complex exponential in discrete time and continuous time

in continuous time we have x(t) = e^(j*ω*t)

while in discrete time we have x[n] = e^j(ω*n)

for the first in order to show whether its periodic we say

x(t+T) = x(t) => ...=> T = 2*k*π/ω and the fundamental period is for k = 0 hence T0 = 2*π/ω i can understand this

for the second my book says that

x[n+N] = x[n] => ... => e^(j*ω*N) = 1 => ω/2*π = m/N

hence ω/2π must be rational

what i don't get is why for the discrete time it must be rational while for the continuous time it can be just 2k*π/ω

I mean, we could find in continuous time the same thing like

Τ*ω = 2*π*m => ω/2π = m/T

hence ω/2π must be rational.. but why don't we say this?

can someone please tell me what's the difference? thanks
 
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Hi Jncik! :smile:

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Jncik said:
… for the second my book says that

x[n+N] = x[n] => ... => e^(j*ω*N) = 1 => ω/2*π = m/N

hence ω/2π must be rational

what i don't get is why for the discrete time it must be rational while for the continuous time it can be just 2k*π/ω …

because if ω/2π = 1/√2, say, then ej*ω*N = ej*π*N/√2 will never be 1 :wink:

(because j*π*N/√2 will never be a multiple of 2π)
 
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Hi Jncik! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)


because if ω/2π = 1/√2, say, then ej*ω*N = ej*π*N/√2 will never be 1 :wink:

(because j*π*N/√2 will never be a multiple of 2π)


hi thanks for your answer

but why doesn't the same thing apply to the case where it is continuous?

i mean why in continuous time we have no such restrictions?
 
because if N doesn't have to be a whole number, π*N/√2 can be a multiple of 2π …

eg with N = 2√2 :wink:
 
i see now, thanks my friend you helped me a lot :)
 
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