Philosophical question about central limit theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a philosophical question regarding the central limit theorem (CLT) and its application to a specific case of identically distributed random variables with a cumulative distribution function equal to 0 for values between -1 and 1. Participants explore the implications of the CLT in this context and identify potential paradoxes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the application of the central limit theorem to a distribution where the cumulative distribution is 0 for all values between -1 and 1, suggesting a paradox regarding the convergence to a normal distribution.
  • Another participant clarifies that the normalization in the CLT involves multiplying the sample mean by the square root of n, indicating that the quantity that converges to a normal distribution is related to the sample mean and population mean.
  • A third participant suggests using statistical software to simulate random variables and graph the results to better understand the behavior of the sample mean in relation to the CLT.
  • A later reply indicates that the original poster has recognized their error in understanding the application of the theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes a mix of exploration and clarification, with some participants providing insights into the application of the CLT while the original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding. However, the initial paradox raised remains a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about the specific distribution in question or the implications of the central limit theorem in this context.

coquelicot
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Well, this is probably a stupid question, but I don't see why (yet).

Let Xi be random variables identically distributed, with mean 0, such that the cumulative distribution is = 0 for all -1 < x < 1. So, I believe it is clear that for all n, the cumulative distribution of Z = (X1 + X2 ... Xn)/n is = 0 for all x < -1. But the central limit theorem implies that this distribution (normalized by the square root of n), converges in distribution to the Normal distribution. So, for some n sufficiently large, the cumulative distribution of Z must be > 0 for some x < -1. Where is the fallacy in this paradox?
thx.
 
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coquelicot said:
But the central limit theorem implies that this distribution (normalized by the square root of n),
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The normalization involves multiplying the sample mean by \sqrt{n}. The quantity that is approximately normally distributed (for a sample of size n , sample mean S_n and population mean \mu for each individual random variable) is \sqrt{n}(S_n - \mu).
 
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If you have issues with the application of the theorem to a particular distribution I would recommend opening a statistical software package and simulating a number of random variables and then graphing the result of the random vectors that get the arithmetic mean and see what happens.

It should help convince you through some examples of how the CLT holds.
 
Thx all.
I have understood my error.
 

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