Plank and torque, problem with finding center mass

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a uniform plank of length 5.0 m and weight 212 N, which is supported at two points, with a portion of it hanging over one support. The question is about determining how far a person weighing 433 N can walk on the overhanging part before the plank tips.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the torque acting on the plank and the person, questioning the distance used for the plank's weight in relation to the fulcrum. Some participants suggest clarifying the interpretation of the plank's length and the positions of the supports.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the interpretation of the problem setup, including the correct distances involved. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the length of the beam and the placement of the supports, with suggestions to visualize the forces through diagrams.

Contextual Notes

The original poster's confusion stems from the calculation of the center of mass and the distances from the fulcrum, which are critical for understanding torque in this scenario. There is a need to clarify the given dimensions and their implications for the problem.

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Homework Statement



A uniform plank of length 5.0 m and weight 212 N rests horizontally on two supports, with d = 1.41 m of the plank hanging over the right support. To what distance, x, can a person who weighs 433 N walk on the overhanging part of the plank before it just begins to tip?

Homework Equations



Tnet = 0
T = r * F

The Attempt at a Solution


I already found the answer, but there's something that bugs me.

Torque of plank = Torque of person
212N * 1.09m = 433N * distance

The right support is the fulcrum point.

What I don't understand is why the plank's weight acts on is 1.09m. I know the idea to get the midpoint from the two supports then subtract by the plank that is hanging over the right support, 5.00m / 2 - 1.41m = 1.09m, but I don't understand why this is the case.

This is what I initially did, 5.00m + 1.41m = 6.41m, then I divided this value by 2 to get 3.205m, and this is the center point of the plank from either end point. This point will be 1.795m from the right support, and I used this to calculate the torque of the plank. Could someone enlighten me why this was wrong? And why the correct way is .. correct?
 
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The beam is 5.0 m in overall length. The distance between supports is 3.59 m. You have misinterpreted the beam as being 6.41 m long and the distance between supports as being 5 m. This is not what is given.
 
ah thank you, I need to read it more clearly.
 
It is a good idea to draw a diagram showing all the forces acting.
The plank is uniform so the weight of 212N is acting at the centre of the plank (2.5m from each end). This should help to see the distancesa from forces and pivots.
 

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