Plastic analysis of a beam,virtual work?

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The discussion focuses on understanding the plastic analysis of beams, specifically the work done at plastic hinges and the relationship between internal and external work. The work at the plastic hinge is expressed as MP multiplied by 2theta, where MP is the plastic moment and theta is the angle of rotation. The external work done by the load is calculated based on the displacement of the load and the geometry of the beam. The participants clarify that the internal work corresponds to the work at the plastic hinge, while the external work is related to the applied load's displacement. The conversation highlights the need for a clearer understanding of the derivations presented in the referenced equations and diagrams.
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I'm trying to understand here a little bit of plastic analyses,but i can understand in the page of the book bellow,why the work at the plastic hinge is equal to MPx2theta?why MP and not MA?
can someone explain me this with some angle relation or trigonometrics?

the second is why the displacement of the working load is equal to W(L/2xtheta), why this result?

Is the work at the plastic hinge, the external work?
Is the displacement of the working load the internal work?

Thanks.

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em07189: The elastic moment is Ma, if the beam is not yielding. If you continue increasing the applied load, the moment will increase to the plastic moment Mp, when the beam collapses. The work done at the plastic hinge is Mp*2*theta, because a midspan moment Mp rotates through an angle 2*theta, where theta is just an arbitrary rotation angle, shown in the diagram. For a simply-supported beam having an applied midspan point load W, the support reaction force is 0.5*W, located at a distance 0.5*L from the beam midspan. Therefore, the external work done by each support reaction force on the beam midspan is 2(0.5*L)(0.5*W)(theta) = 0.5*W*L*theta. The work of Mp at the plastic hinge is the internal work. The work due to displacement of the applied load W is the external work.
 
HI nvn!

And thanks for you help.

But I'm still not understanding why the work at the plastic hing gives MP*2theta?

why the workdone at the tree plastic hinges is =MP(theta+2*theta+theta)?

and why work done by the displacement of the load=W/L*L/2*L/2*theta? why this reaults?

thanks again.
 
em07189: Keep in mind, posts 1 and 2, and equations 2.24 and 2.25, refer to a preceding diagram, which you did not post. Only equations 2.26 and 2.27 refer to figure 2.20. Work is defined as a force translating through a distance, or a torque rotating through an angle. For the unshown beam, the beam rotates through two angles theta; therefore, the internal work is Mp*2*theta.

Your last two questions in post 3 refer to figure 2.20. The beam rotates through four angles theta. Therefore, the internal work is Mp*4*theta. I currently don't have an explanation for your last question, because the author does not show his derivation. And the way he has written W is unclear. If the uniform load were w, having units of force per unit length, then equation 2.27 would be Mp = w*(L^2)/16, which is the correct answer. If W = w*L, then this becomes Mp = W*L/16. But I currently don't have an explanation for equation 2.26.b.
 
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