Please help with this Differential equation problem

In summary: If you did, you would have seen the equation (17) in the first link and equation (8) in the second link. Both of these equations are of the form ##y_p = Axe^{4x}##. The reason for this is because the right hand side of your original equation contains a term ##2e^{4x}##, which is already a solution to the homogeneous equation. Hence, using the same form for ##y_p## will not work. You need to multiply by ##x## so that the term ##2## does not cancel out when you differentiate.
  • #1
Ric-Veda
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Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x
 
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  • #2
Ric-Veda said:

Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x

Use the method of undermined coefficients; see, eg.,
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/UndeterminedCoefficients.aspx
or
http://www.math.psu.edu/tseng/class/Math251/Notes-2nd%20order%20ODE%20pt2.pdf
 
  • #3
Ric-Veda said:

Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x

Since ##e^{4x}## is a solution to the homogeneous equation, of course trying ##y_p = ae^{4x}## is going to give you ##0##. Try ##y_p = Axe^{4x}##.
 
  • #4
LCKurtz said:
Since ##e^{4x}## is a solution to the homogeneous equation, of course trying ##y_p = ae^{4x}## is going to give you ##0##. Try ##y_p = Axe^{4x}##.
But I need to know why instead of using yp=ae^4x, you have to use yp=axe^4x (sorry, the template to write the equation like you did is very complicated for me)
 
  • #5
My professor did not go in dept. I just know know:
if a constant: yp=A

if x: yp=Ax+B

if x^2: yp=Ax^2+Bx+C

if cos(x) or sin(x): yp=Acos(x)+Asin(x)

if e^x: yp=Ae^x

Or something like that?
 
  • #6
You have been suggested to look at the method of undetermined coefficients above. Another more organized way is to use the method of annihilators, which involves less guesswork. Lots of info on the internet. One source is
http://dankalman.net/AUhome/classes/classesF12/odes/assignments/annihilatormethod.pdf
 
  • #7
Ric-Veda said:
My professor did not go in dept. I just know know:
if a constant:

if cos(x) or sin(x): yp=Acos(x)+Asin(x)

if e^x: yp=Ae^x

Or something like that?
These are valid only, if the the right side is not solution of the homogeneous equation. If it is, you have to include the factor x, in order that you do not get zero on the right side when you substitute the particular solution.

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  • #8
Ric-Veda said:
But I need to know why instead of using yp=ae^4x, you have to use yp=axe^4x (sorry, the template to write the equation like you did is very complicated for me)

Have you looked at the links I supplied in post #2?
 

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