PMOS diff amp - common mode input range

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The discussion revolves around calculating the input common mode range for a PMOS differential amplifier. Participants are seeking equations for the maximum and minimum input signal ranges, comparing it to their understanding of NMOS differential pairs.

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  • One participant requests assistance in calculating the input common mode range for a PMOS differential pair, expressing uncertainty compared to NMOS pairs.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on rail voltages and suggests that the question may belong in the Homework Help forum, emphasizing the need for the original poster to show their own work.
  • The original poster clarifies that the question is not homework-related and seeks general equations for the common mode input range of a PMOS differential pair, stating that the specific rail voltages are not critical for their inquiry.
  • The original poster provides equations for an NMOS differential pair and expresses uncertainty about the voltage drops in a PMOS configuration, seeking help to derive similar equations.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as the original poster is looking for specific equations while another participant questions the context of the inquiry. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific calculations for the PMOS differential pair.

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The discussion lacks specific details on the rail voltages and the assumptions underlying the voltage drops in the PMOS configuration, which may affect the derivation of the common mode input range equations.

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Hi

Can someone help me on how i can calculate the input common mode range for this pmos diff pair. I'd have an idea if it was an NMOS diff pair but am kinda uncertain of this.
I'm looking for equations for the input signal ranges of Vmax and Vmin

Thanks
 

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anyone any help on this?

Thanks
 
BillyBobjoe said:
Hi

Can someone help me on how i can calculate the input common mode range for this pmos diff pair. I'd have an idea if it was an NMOS diff pair but am kinda uncertain of this.
I'm looking for equations for the input signal ranges of Vmax and Vmin

Thanks

What are your rail voltages? All that you show so far is the 50uA mirror bias...

Also, is this coursework? I should move it to the Homework Help forum if it is, and you need to show your own work in order for us to help you.
 
No its not a homework question. just for general use.
it doesn't mater what the rail voltages are i just want a general equation for the common mode input range for a pmos diff pair

if it were a nmos diff pair then the eq's would be
Vin_min = Vds(n6) + Vgs(n1)
Vin_max = Vaa + Vgs(p3) - Vds(n1) +Vgs(n1)

where n6 would be the nmos current mirror transistor, N1 - from the diff pair
p3 - pmos transistor above N1 of diff pair

so basically I'm just unsure on where the voltage drops are across for when i am using a pmos diff pair.
I would like help with these equations for the image attached in the first post.
Thanks
 

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