Polarization and intensity with three polarizing sheets

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light intensity as it passes through three polarizing sheets. The original poster attempts to apply the equations for intensity related to polarized light, specifically addressing the initial conditions of unpolarized light and the angles associated with each polarizer.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the correct application of intensity equations, particularly the use of angles in relation to the polarizing sheets. There is uncertainty about the initial intensity calculation and the angles to be used for subsequent sheets.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on correcting the approach to angle usage and the initial intensity calculation. There is ongoing exploration of how to properly apply the angles between the polarizers and the implications for intensity as light passes through each sheet.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of applying the correct angles in the context of the problem, questioning the assumptions about the orientation of the polarizers and the resulting intensity calculations.

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Homework Statement



[PLAIN]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7899/physicsch3333.png

Homework Equations



I = 0.5*I_0
I = I_0*cos^2(θ)

The Attempt at a Solution



I_1 = 0.5*I_0*(cos 50)^2
I_2 = I_1*(cos 70)^2
I_3 = I2*(cos 50)^2

This is my attempt at the problem. This is new to me and I know that I use I = 0.5*I_0 for unpolarized light, but this one had an angle so I wasn't sure how to implement it in. I'm assuming my I_1 is wrong, what's the correct notation for it? And I used the angles relative to the x axis, should I not do that and use the given angles?
 
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This is new to me and I know that I use I = 0.5*I_0 for unpolarized light, but this one had an angle so I wasn't sure how to implement it in.

Your I1 is indeed wrong. The light is initially unpolarized, which means it doesn't point in any direction in particular. So the angle of the first sheet doesn't matter. We just have,

I1 = 0.5 I0

And I used the angles relative to the x axis, should I not do that and use the given angles?

You do need to fix your angles. The equation you posted is correct, but you didn't implement it correctly. We have,

I = I0*cos2(θ)

Any angle is defined as the angle between something and something else. What two things is θ between in this case?
 
Mike Pemulis said:
Your I1 is indeed wrong. The light is initially unpolarized, which means it doesn't point in any direction in particular. So the angle of the first sheet doesn't matter. We just have,

I1 = 0.5 I0



You do need to fix your angles. The equation you posted is correct, but you didn't implement it correctly. We have,



Any angle is defined as the angle between something and something else. What two things is θ between in this case?

So it will be:
I1 = 0.5 I0
I2 = I1cos^2(20)
I3 = I2cos^2(40)

Then it's just:
I3 = I2cos^2(40) = (I1cos^2(20))cos^2(40) = 0.5 I0cos^(20)cos^2(40)

And whatever constant I get multiplied by I0. Then find the ratio of I3/I0 and that's my percentage of light intensity? Are my angles right this time around?
 
I2 = I1cos2(20)
I3 = I2cos2(40)

No -- the given angles are not exactly the angles you plug into the formula. You need to figure out what to do with them. One hint -- say the axis of Sheet 2 pointed in the same direction as the axis of Sheet 1. What would happen to the intensity as the light passed through Sheet 2?
 
Mike Pemulis said:
No -- the given angles are not exactly the angles you plug into the formula. You need to figure out what to do with them. One hint -- say the axis of Sheet 2 pointed in the same direction as the axis of Sheet 1. What would happen to the intensity as the light passed through Sheet 2?

So you're telling me to use something like this:

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Where I take the sum of the angles 40 and 20 and then my angles for I2 and I3 will be 60 degrees? I guess I could find the angle between the two, which would be 120 as well, since we are squaring them, the negative will go away anyways.
 
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Exactly right. I have nothing to add -- nice job. :smile:
 

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