Position of a charge (out of 3) with a net force of 0

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To determine the position of a third charge, q3, such that the net force on it is zero, the relationship between the distances r1 and r2 from q1 and q2 must be established. The equations derived indicate that r1 and r2 are related by the equation -r1^2 = 2r2^2. A quadratic equation was formed to solve for r2, but the resulting discriminant was negative, indicating a complex solution. This suggests that the assumption of placing q3 between q1 and q2 may be incorrect, as the forces acting on q3 were not properly accounted for in terms of direction. A reevaluation of the force directions is necessary to find a valid solution.
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Homework Statement


Point charges ##q_1=50 \mu C## and ##q_1=-25 \mu C## are placed 1.0 m apart.
Where must a third charge ##q_3=20 \mu C## be placed so that the net force on it is zero?

Homework Equations


$$\vec F=\frac{1}{4\pi {\varepsilon}_0}\frac{|q_1q_2|}{r^2}\hat r$$

The Attempt at a Solution


Let ##r_1## be the distance from ##q_1## to ##q_3##, and ##r_2## be the distance from ##q_2## to ##q_3##
$$\vec F=0=\frac{1}{4\pi {\varepsilon}_0}(\frac{|q_1q_3|}{{r_1}^2}+\frac{|q_3q_2|}{{r_2}^2})
\\ -\frac{|q_2q_3|}{{r_2}^2}=\frac{|q_3q_1|}{{r_1}^2} \Rightarrow -\frac{|q_2|}{{r_2}^2}=\frac{|q_1|}{{r_1}^2}
\\ -{r_1}^2|q_2|={r_2}^2|q_1|$$
Plug in values:
$$-{r_1}^2|q_2|={r_2}^2|q_1| \Rightarrow -{r_1}^2(25 \mu C)={r_2}^2(50 \mu C)
\\ -{r_1}^2=2{r_2}^2$$

I am not sure if I missed something in my approach, but I do not know how to continue.

Thank you in advance
 
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Did you draw a sketch?
Can you describe in words where the charge should be?

The approach is good so far.
 
Would the charge be between ##q_1## and ##q_2##

If so, then I was able to get a quadratic equation, but I get a complex number.

$$r_1+r_2=1 m \Rightarrow r_1 = 1-r_2
\\ -{r_1}^2=2{r_2}^2 \Rightarrow -(1-r_2)^2=2{r_2}^2
\\ 1-2r_2+{r_2}^2=-2{r_2}^2 \Rightarrow 1-2{r_2}+3{r_2}^2=0$$
When using the quadratic formula, the discriminant becomes ##\sqrt{4-4(1)(3)}=\sqrt{4-12}=\sqrt{-8}##

Did I make a mistake somewhere? How can the position be complex?
 
If the charge is in between, in which direction do the two forces point?
Does this explain why you didn't find a solution?

Strictly speaking you should have considered the direction for the initial equation with the forces already. You only calculated the magnitude.
 
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