Position Potentiometer for 3V Across XX

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The discussion revolves around determining the position of a slider on a 10 kΩ potentiometer in a circuit with a 5 kΩ load, specifically aiming to achieve a voltage of 3 V across designated points 'XX'. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and circuit analysis.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method involving a series resistor and two parallel resistors, leading to a quadratic equation to find the slider position.
  • Another participant presents a similar approach, reiterating the calculations and arriving at the same quadratic equation, suggesting a halfway point at x=0.5.
  • A third participant proposes a different method by splitting the potentiometer into two parts and calculating the voltage across the parallel combination, ultimately arriving at a quadratic equation with a positive solution of R=5.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the methods shared by others, indicating a collaborative atmosphere.

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Participants generally agree on the methods used to approach the problem, but there are variations in the specific calculations and interpretations of the results. No consensus is reached on a single method as the definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the calculations, particularly in how the voltage divider is applied and the implications of the different methods proposed.

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Readers interested in circuit analysis, voltage dividers, and potentiometer applications may find this discussion beneficial.

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A circuit has a 10 kΩ potentiometer with a 5 kΩ load. Determine the position of the slider on the ‘pot’ when the voltage across points ‘XX' is 3 V.

Think I'm there but not sure of my working out is excessive or I've taken the long route


R1 in series with 2 resistors in parallel (R2 and 5k ohm)

R1=10x, R2=10(1-x)

R2 + 5k ohm = RC

1/RC = 1/(10(1-x)) + 1/5.
1/RC = (5+10(1-x))/(50(1-x))
RC = 50(1-x) / (5+10(1-x))
= 10(1-x) / (1+2(1-x)

Voltage drop will be 9-3=6v
I = V/R
I = 6/R1 = 3/RC
R1 = 2RC

10x= 2x10(1-x)/ (1+2(1-x))
x = 2(1-x)/(1+2(1-x))
x(1+2(1-x))=2(1-x)
x+2x-2x^2 =2- 2x
2x^2-5x+2 = 0

Quadratic gives
x= 2 or x= .5

x=0.5 (halfway point)
 
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charger9198 said:
A circuit has a 10 kΩ potentiometer with a 5 kΩ load. Determine the position of the slider on the ‘pot’ when the voltage across points ‘XX' is 3 V.

Think I'm there but not sure of my working out is excessive or I've taken the long route


R1 in series with 2 resistors in parallel (R2 and 5k ohm)

R1=10x, R2=10(1-x)

R2 + 5k ohm = RC

1/RC = 1/(10(1-x)) + 1/5.
1/RC = (5+10(1-x))/(50(1-x))
RC = 50(1-x) / (5+10(1-x))
= 10(1-x) / (1+2(1-x)

Voltage drop will be 9-3=6v
I = V/R
I = 6/R1 = 3/RC
R1 = 2RC

10x= 2x10(1-x)/ (1+2(1-x))
x = 2(1-x)/(1+2(1-x))
x(1+2(1-x))=2(1-x)
x+2x-2x^2 =2- 2x
2x^2-5x+2 = 0

Quadratic gives
x= 2 or x= .5

x=0.5 (halfway point)

charger9198 said:

Your solution looks good. You can do a final check of your work by checking what voltage divider you get with your final configuration (5k on top, and 5//5k on the bottom)...
 
I split the potentiometer into 2 parts , 10-R at the top and R at the bottom giving R in parallel with the 5k
Resistance of parallel combination is then 5R/(5+R)
The voltage across this combination = 3V and the voltage across the toppart (10-R) =
6V
This means that (10-R) = 2 x 5R/(5+R)
This gives R^2 + 5R - 50 =0 with R=5 being the +ve solution...half way
I think this is more or less the procedure you used.
 
Thanks for both your help guys; technician: I like your method, thanks for the input:)
 

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