Potential energy and proton acceleratoin

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A proton is accelerated to 3*10^6 m/s and approaches a spherical charge distribution with a charge of 1.6*10^-18 C. The conservation of energy equation is applied, leading to confusion over the correct values for the proton's charge and the spherical charge distribution. The initial calculations suggested an incorrect final distance due to mixing up the charges, specifically using the proton's charge of 1.6*10^-19 C instead of the distribution's charge. Ultimately, the correct approach requires maintaining the distinction between the two charges to accurately calculate the distance the proton travels before stopping. The final correct answer is determined to be 9.2*10^-7 m.
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Homework Statement



A proton is accelerated to 3*10^6 m/s and heads towards a spherical charge distribution having a charge of 1.6*10^-18 C. Approximately how close to the distribution does the proton travel before stopping? (Assume inital potential energy of proton is zero).

Vi= 0
Q= 1.6*10^-18 C
a= 3*10^6 m/s

Homework Equations


energy conservation:

Kf+Vf = Ki + Vi
V= kQ/R



The Attempt at a Solution



Kf+Vf = Ki + Vi
0+qv= 1/2mv^2+ 0
qv= .5mv^2
(1.6*10^-18)(v)= (.5)(1.67*10^-27)(3*10^6m/s)
v= .001565

V= kQ/R
.001565= (9*10^9)(1.6*10^-18)/(R)
R= 9.2 * 10^-7m


Is this correct?
 
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In EPE = qV, the 'q' is the charge being acted on by the spherical charge distribution, since you set V to be the potential caused by this distribution. So in this case it would be the charge of the proton.
 
So when I plugged in 1 *10^-19 C [charge of proton] I ended up with 9.2*10^-6 m which was not even an option on the multiple choice. I am confused, please help. If this helps the answers are:
1.9* 10^6m
3.1*10^-13m
5.5*10^-7 m
9.2 *10^-7 m
 
The charge of the proton is really 1.6*10^-19 C. But it looks like you made a mistake somewhere and lost a factor of 10. You actually had the right answer initially, but did the math wrong.

So please write out all the steps and I can point out where you went wrong.
 
so here's what I did:

Kf+Vf = Ki + Vi
0+qv= 1/2mv^2+ 0
qv= .5mv^2
(1.6*10^-19)(v)= (.5)(1.67*10^-27)(3*10^6m/s)
v= .01565

V= kQ/R
.01565= (9*10^9)(1.6*10^-19)/(R)
R= 9.2* 10 ^-8 m

but then I did this:
leaving q = 1.6*10^-18 and changing Q= 1.6 *10^-19 [ proton charge] and then solving the same way to get a final answer of
9.2 *10^-7m.

so which way is correct?
By the way thanks for helping.
 
Changing the order of q and Q should not affect your answer. You are making a mistake when you calculate R in this step:

.01565= (9*10^9)(1.6*10^-19)/(R)

Originally you have q = 1.6*10-19 C, and here in this step you are also setting Q = 1.6*10^-19 C. You should have set Q = 1.6*10^-18 C.
 
nickjer said:
Changing the order of q and Q should not affect your answer. You are making a mistake when you calculate R in this step:

.01565= (9*10^9)(1.6*10^-19)/(R)

Originally you have q = 1.6*10-19 C, and here in this step you are also setting Q = 1.6*10^-19 C. You should have set Q = 1.6*10^-18 C.
well i found the right answer and it was nowhere near what I got.

by the way i did originally have Q = 1.6*10^-18 C but you told me to change it.
 
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Well, you can interchange q and Q. But only one of them can be 1.6*10^-19 C. Unfortunately, you set them both to that.
 
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