Poynting vector -- Calculate the EM power transmitted down a coax cable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electromagnetic power transmitted down a coax cable using the Poynting vector. A participant achieved a power result of 3.3 µW, matching the expected answer, but questioned the correctness of their derivation. Clarification was sought on the meaning of the charge distribution equation, with confusion about the finite amount of charge at a specific position. The conversation also highlighted the relationship between charge density and current, emphasizing that the current's expression differs from the expected derivative of charge with respect to time. The final point raised concerns the direction of energy propagation, suggesting a discrepancy between the derived current and the expected energy flow direction.
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Homework Statement
Poynting vector
Relevant Equations
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I don't know which part gets wrong
 
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Hi. How much W does your result show ?
 
mitochan said:
Hi. How much W does your result show ?
I got 3.3uW which is same as the given answer but the derivation isn't correct tho
 
Hum.. I am so optimistic to say if you get the right value, the way of your derivation is right too.
 
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I'm not clear on the meaning of the statement:

"The distribution of charge on the inner wire is given by ##q(z,t) = Q_0\cos \left( \omega( \frac{z}{c}-t) \right)##"

Does ##q(z, t)## represent the amount of charge on the wire at position ##z## at time ##t##? That doesn't make sense to me. How can there be a finite amount of charge located at one value of ##z##?

But, suppose we go ahead and assume that the charge per unit length ##\lambda(z,t)## on the wire is given by

##\lambda(z,t) =\frac{\partial q}{\partial z} = -\frac{\omega}{c} Q_0 \sin \left( \omega( \frac{z}{c}-t) \right)##

The current ##I(z,t)## is not given by ##\large \frac{\partial q(z,t)}{\partial t}##. Rather, see if you can show that

##\large \frac {\partial I}{\partial z} = -\frac{\partial \lambda}{\partial t}##.

You can then use this relation to derive the expression for ##I(z, t)##.

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Note that your result for ##I(z,t)## has the opposite sign of ##\lambda(z, t)##. The directions of E and B will then be such that the Poynting vector propagates energy in the negative-z direction. But I think you should find that the energy propagates in the positive-z direction.
 
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