Pressure as a function of time.

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To find pressure as a function of time, the water height (h) must first be determined based on the inflow and outflow rates. The net rate of water change can be calculated using the equation for mass flow, which relates the change in height to time. Pressure at the bottom of the tank is influenced by both the water height and the flow dynamics, as pressure varies across different points in the pipe. The discussion highlights the complexity of calculating pressure due to varying flow speeds and the need to consider both inflow and outflow effects. Understanding these relationships is crucial for accurately determining pressure over time.
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Homework Statement



Find pressure as a function of time. At time t = 0, the water level is 2 feet.
Cross-sectional area is 8 ft2 for the top and 1 ft2 for the bottom.
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Homework Equations



p=(ro)gh

The Attempt at a Solution



Since I want to find the pressure as a function of time; I will need to find h as a function of time, then multiply by ro and g. How can I do this?

Thanks
 
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There is no attachment. I assume water is flowing out somewhere?
 
Water in flowing in at a rate of 3-t, and flowing out at a rate of t^2. Initial water level is 2 ft.

I'm sorry I am new to this. I tried attaching the file again. Thanks.
 

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Which pressure do you want to find? Pressure on the pipe, pressure of the water flow at the lower pipe, etc?
 
I want to find the pressure at the bottom of the tank.
Thanks
 
I'm not sure what you meant by "pressure at the bottom of the tank". Forget it for a while. Back to your main problem, finding h. From the two water flowing rates, you can calculate the net rate at which water gets in/out of the top pipe, can't you? And from the relation: \frac{dM_{net}}{dt}=\rho S_{top}\frac{dh}{dt}, it's easy to find dh/dt and h. What is the dimension of \dot {M} by the way?

The main problem I want to talk about is the pressure. From your equation p=\rho gh, I can guess that you want to find the pressure exerting on the bottom, correct? It is not easy at all. If you look at it more carefully, the pressure on the bottom near the edge is different from the pressure at the places farther. The flow's speed is not homogeneous in the lower pipe. Moreover the pressure due to the water flowing in must be taken into account.
 
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I have attached the solution I have for this problem. The part I do not understand is how they calculate dv/dh.
 

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Sorry, I don't get it either.
 
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