Applying the Product Rule to a Non-Differentiable Function

In summary, the conversation discusses the application of the product rule in a specific example where one of the functions is not differentiable. It is determined that in order to find the derivative, one must go back to the epsilon-delta definition of limit. There is a mention of potentially finding an easier way to find the derivative, but this is not resolved.
  • #1
StephenPrivitera
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Can the product rule be applied if one of the functions is not differentiable? For example,
f(x)={g(x)sin(1/x), x not =0
=0, x=0
where g(0)=g'(0)=0.
f'(0)=g'(0)sin(1/0) + g(0)dsin(1/x)/dx
=0sin1/0+0dsin(1/x)/dx=0?
applying the limit definition, I get
f'(0)=g'(0)lim sin(1/h) where h-->0
is this zero?
 
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It turns out that in order to find f'(0) I had to go back to the e-d definition of limit. Anyone see an easier way?
 
  • #3
The limit you're describing does not exist.a

Product rule:
f(x)g(x)=f'(x)g(x)+f(x)g'(x)

You need derivatives of both.

Now we have
g(x)sin(1/x)

the derivative of sin(1/x) is
x-2cos(1/x)
and not defined at zero (no limit at zero either)
you'd need g(x) to grow at better than x2 to have a potential derivative there.
 
  • #4
Originally posted by NateTG
The limit you're describing does not exist.a
Hi NateTG, I have found the limit. See attached.
I had to go back to epsilons and deltas. I was wondering if anyone knows an easier way to find the derivative.
 

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What is the Product Rule and how does it apply to a non-differentiable function?

The Product Rule is a rule in calculus that allows us to find the derivative of a product of two functions. It states that the derivative of the product of two functions is equal to the first function times the derivative of the second function, plus the second function times the derivative of the first function. This rule can also be applied to non-differentiable functions, meaning functions that do not have a continuous derivative at every point.

Why is the Product Rule important in calculus?

The Product Rule is important because it allows us to find the derivative of a product of two functions without having to expand the product and use the Definition of the Derivative. This makes it a more efficient and practical method for finding derivatives, especially for more complex functions.

What are the conditions for applying the Product Rule to a non-differentiable function?

The conditions for applying the Product Rule to a non-differentiable function are that both functions in the product must be differentiable at the point of interest and the product must be continuous at that point. If these conditions are not met, then the Product Rule cannot be applied and another method must be used to find the derivative.

Can the Product Rule be applied to a product of more than two functions?

Yes, the Product Rule can be extended to products of more than two functions. The general formula for the Product Rule with three functions is: (fgh)' = f'gh + fg'h + fgh'. This can be extended to any number of functions in a product.

Is the Product Rule applicable to all types of functions?

The Product Rule is applicable to all types of functions, as long as they meet the conditions mentioned earlier. This includes polynomial functions, exponential functions, trigonometric functions, and more. However, it may not be the most efficient method for finding the derivative in some cases, so it is important to consider other methods as well.

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