Proof of already solved Hard Improper Definite Integral

Swimmingly!
Messages
43
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Some friend of mine found this on a book:
\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-cos(\omega t)}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=ln[\frac{(\frac{T}{C})!}{|(\frac{T}{C}-iTt)!|}]
The proof is left for the reader.

Homework Equations


b460f825d4795dfa285b98575b7c7523.png

3b3bc7b3dad9e055f40c55282b78b5c0.png

The Attempt at a Solution


First very safe step:
cos(ωt)=Re(e^(iωt))

Second.1: A possibility is using a substitution of: x=e^ω But now instead of 1/ω we have 1/ln(x) which is difficult to handle in integration.

Second.2: I tried using derivation under the integral sign which I've basically never used before, assuming the legality of my move. If it=A.
I=\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-e^{it\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=<br /> \int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }
\frac{d}{dA}I=<br /> \int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{\partial }{\partial A}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)}
Which may not be convergent. At least as ω goes to zero the function goes to infinite. And as it goes to infinite 1/T must be greater than the exponent of the upper part of the fraction. And I still have to integrate with respect to A after.

Alternative methods:
Use of representation by series. Maybe with the help of integration by parts.
Assuming the result is similar to the derivative result and just try differentiating.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Swimmingly! said:

Homework Statement


Some friend of mine found this on a book:
\int_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{1-cos(\omega t)}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=ln[\frac{(\frac{T}{C})!}{|(\frac{T}{C}-iTt)!|}]
What's the variable of integration? You omitted it. Is it ##\omega##? If so, the integral should have d##\omega## in it.

BTW, the LaTeX code for ∞ is \infty. I replaced your "inf" things throughout your post.
Swimmingly! said:
The proof is left for the reader.

Homework Equations


b460f825d4795dfa285b98575b7c7523.png

3b3bc7b3dad9e055f40c55282b78b5c0.png

The Attempt at a Solution


First very safe step:
cos(ωt)=Re(e^(iωt))

Second.1: A possibility is using a substitution of: x=e^ω But now instead of 1/ω we have 1/ln(x) which is difficult to handle in integration.

Second.2: I tried using derivation under the integral sign which I've basically never used before, assuming the legality of my move. If it=A.
I=\int_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{1-e^{it\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=<br /> \int_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }
\frac{d}{dA}I=<br /> \int_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{\partial }{\partial A}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=\int_{0}^{+\infty}\frac{-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)}
Which may not be convergent. At least as ω goes to zero the function goes to infinite. And as it goes to infinite 1/T must be greater than the exponent of the upper part of the fraction. And I still have to integrate with respect to A after.

Alternative methods:
Use of representation by series. Maybe with the help of integration by parts.
Assuming the result is similar to the derivative result and just try differentiating.
 
Thank you, I didn't know that about latex and I forgot to write dω. ALL INTEGRALS ARE WITH RESPECT TO dω.

The problem is still open. If anyone can help here it is better written:
\int_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1-cos(\omega t)}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }dω=ln[\frac{(\frac{T}{C})!}{|(\frac{T}{C}-iTt)!|}]
 
There are two things I don't understand about this problem. First, when finding the nth root of a number, there should in theory be n solutions. However, the formula produces n+1 roots. Here is how. The first root is simply ##\left(r\right)^{\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)}##. Then you multiply this first root by n additional expressions given by the formula, as you go through k=0,1,...n-1. So you end up with n+1 roots, which cannot be correct. Let me illustrate what I mean. For this...
Back
Top