Prove square of four-momentum is relativistic invariant

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The discussion centers on proving that the square of the relativistic four-momentum for a massive particle is invariant under Lorentz transformations. The user expresses confusion regarding the concept of relativistic invariance and seeks assistance with their homework. They provide an example using four-momentum from two different observers, concluding that both yield the same invariant result of (mc)^2. Another participant confirms the user's approach as both elegant and correct, suggesting a method involving Lorentz transformations to derive the result explicitly. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding how different inertial frames agree on invariant quantities.
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Homework Statement



Hi everyone,

I have a physics assignment that asks: Prove that the square of relativistic four-momentum for a massive particle is a relativistic invariant under Lorentz transformations.

Can anyone help me to work on the problem? I'm always lost in the class ever since my professor starts teaching modern physics. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Homework Equations



p = <γmc, γmv>

The Attempt at a Solution



From what I can gather from the question and my understanding, relativistic invariant means that the four-momentum from two different observer should be the same. My best shot on this question is through example from my class notes:

suppose p1 (four-momentum from observer 1) is <γmc, γmv> and p2 four-momentum from observer 2, traveling at speed v) is <mc, 0>. Therefore when we calculate p^2 for both observer we find it to be (mc)^2

Again I'm really grateful for any help you could give me
 
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Hi Falken_47. If you want to derive it explicitly, take the square of the 4-momentum p^i=({\gamma}mc,{\gamma}m{\mathbf{v}}), apply the Lorentz transformations for a contravariant 4-vector to obtain p^i{&#039;} which moves in a frame at an arbitrary speed V with respect to the original frame. So you should have p^i{&#039;} in terms of non-primes, take the square of this and after some algebra you should arrive at the same solution as you had for the square of p^i. Lorentz Invariant just means that 2 observers in 2 different inertial frames will agree on the quantity which is invariant.
 
Falken_47 said:

Homework Statement



Hi everyone,

I have a physics assignment that asks: Prove that the square of relativistic four-momentum for a massive particle is a relativistic invariant under Lorentz transformations.

Can anyone help me to work on the problem? I'm always lost in the class ever since my professor starts teaching modern physics. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Homework Equations



p = <γmc, γmv>

The Attempt at a Solution



From what I can gather from the question and my understanding, relativistic invariant means that the four-momentum from two different observer should be the same. My best shot on this question is through example from my class notes:

suppose p1 (four-momentum from observer 1) is <γmc, γmv> and p2 four-momentum from observer 2, traveling at speed v) is <mc, 0>. Therefore when we calculate p^2 for both observer we find it to be (mc)^2

Again I'm really grateful for any help you could give me

I think that your method is both elegant and correct.
 
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