Prove that a group of order 34 with no more than 33 automorphisms is cyclic

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The discussion revolves around proving that a group G of order 34, with no more than 33 automorphisms, must be cyclic. Participants explore the implications of G's structure based on its order and the nature of its automorphisms.

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  • The original poster attempts a proof by contradiction, assuming G is not cyclic and exploring the implications of having elements of specific orders. Questions arise about the relationship between inner automorphisms and the center of the group, as well as the implications of a nontrivial center on the group's abelian nature.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting that the center's nontriviality implies abelian properties. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the structure of G based on the orders of elements and their interactions. Guidance is provided regarding the nature of automorphisms, including the distinction between inner and non-inner automorphisms.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the specific order of the group and the limit on the number of automorphisms. The discussion also highlights the potential for multiple interpretations regarding the relationships between elements and their orders within the group.

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Homework Statement


I need to show that for a group G of order 34 that if the order of the automorphism group is less than or equal to to 33, then G is cyclic.


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I'm mainly trying to do a proof by contradiction. First I assumed that G had <= 33 automorphisms and then supposed that G was not cyclic. So then I tried to construct a group of that sort.

If G has order 34, but G is not cyclic, i.e. generated by an element of order 34, then G must be generated by an element x of order 2 and an element y of order 17. Is this correct? It seems like G would still be cyclic of order 34 and would be generated by the element xy.

Anyhow, I tried constructing the possible automorphisms. There would be an automorphism mapping y to each power of y between 1 and 17, so that is 17 automorphisms. Then I wasn't sure how to use the factor of 2. If I could use the factor of 2, I might be able to double the amount of automorphisms, but it seems like x could only be mapped to x, since x = x^-1 is the only element of order 2.

Could someone help me out please?
 
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Yes, G is generated by an element x of order 2 and an element y of order 17. But that doesn't mean G is cyclic of order 34. That's only true if x and y commute. Can you show that if the inner automorphisms generated by two elements c and d are the same then cd^(-1) is in the center of G? Can you show if G has a nontrivial center, then it's abelian?
 
Ok, this seems to be coming together.

Let G be a group generated by x of order 2 and y of order 17.

Let Ic be the inner automorphism defined by Ic(a) = cac^-1, for some c in G, all a in G.
Let Id be the inner automorphism defined by Id(a) = dad^-1, for some d in G, all a in G.
Then cac^-1 = dad^-1 ==>
(d^-1 c)a = a(d^-1 c) ==>
(d^-1 c) is in Z(G).

Then let s be in Z(G) and let s not be the identity. s exists because the inner automorphism by x is equal to the inner automorphism by the identity, so xe^-1 = x is in Z(G).

So the center is nontrivial. How exactly does this imply that G is abelian? Is it because the inner automorphism of x by y^n is equal to x, for any integer n, and the inner automorphism of any power of y^m by y^n is equal to y^m, for any integers m,n?
 
I would say that the center is nontrivial because all 34 inner automorphisms can't be different. Therefore two of them must be the same. So pick s to be a nonidentity element of the center. What are the possibilities for the order of s? Think again about the structure of the group considering s as one of the generators.
 
Ok, I think I got it.

Let G be a group generated by x of order 2 and y of order 17.

Let Ic be the inner automorphism defined by Ic(a) = cac^-1, for some c in G, all a in G.
Let Id be the inner automorphism defined by Id(a) = dad^-1, for some d in G, all a in G.
Then cac^-1 = dad^-1 ==>
(d^-1 c)a = a(d^-1 c) ==>
(d^-1 c) is in Z(G).

The order of the automorphism group is less than or equal to 33, so there must be at least nontrivial automorphism which fixes all g in G. Suppose this is Is. Then Is(g) = sgs^-1 = g, for all g in G. Then s is in Z(G).
Since s is not the identity, |s| must be 2, 17, or 34. If |s| is 34, then G = <s> is cyclic.

If s in <x>, then it commutes with all elements of <y>, so since <x> and <y> are cyclic, G = <x, y> is cyclic.
Same argument if s is in <y>.


Are there any problems here?

Also, a small question: Are there automorphisms besides inner automorphisms?
 
It probably safer to say if |s|=2 then there is another element of order 17 and between them they generate the whole group rather than saying 'if s is <x>'. A priori there may be more than one element of order two. And yes, there can be noninner automorphisms. In the cyclic group {0,1,2} interchanging 1 and 2 is an automorphism but it's not inner, since the group is abelian.
 

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