Prove that a projectile launched on level ground

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The discussion revolves around proving that a projectile launched on level ground reaches its maximum height midway along its trajectory. Participants are exploring the implications of the problem statement and various interpretations related to projectile motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to prove the relationship between the apex of the projectile's trajectory and the horizontal distance covered. Some are exploring different methods, including using time of ascent and horizontal displacement equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions in the problem statement and exploring multiple interpretations of what needs to be proven. Some have provided insights into their methods, while others are seeking clarification on whether their approaches are sufficient.

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There are discussions about the need for clarity in the problem statement regarding ballistic trajectories and interpretations of when the apex occurs in relation to time and distance. Participants are also considering the implications of symmetry in projectile motion.

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Homework Statement



Prove that a projectile launched on level ground reaches maximum height midway along its trajectory.

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Is the attached solution the correct way to prove?

I tried another method which was:
t = 0 or t = 2vyi/g

[y(2vyi/g) = y(0) + vi.t -0.5gt^2]/2 [itex]\equiv y(vyi/g) = y(0) + vyi.t -0.5gt^2 = vyi^2/g[/itex]
then solve but it couldn't be solve.
This was so that I could prove that the total displacement in t_apex = vyi/g is equivalent to half the displacement achieved in y(2vyi/g) = y(0) + vi.t -0.5gt^2
 
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(1) Just to be absolutely clear, rather than clear by assumption, the problem statement should say that this is a ballistic trajectory (it always is in such problems, but still ... )

(2) I interpret the question to mean that you are to show that the apex occurs when half of the total horizontal distance has been covered. I think this would be a more normal interpretation that the other two possible interpretations which are "when half of the total time has elapsed" and "when BOTH half of the time AND half of the distance have elapsed" (which happens to be the case but to my mind wasn't really the question).
 
phinds said:
(1) Just to be absolutely clear, rather than clear by assumption, the problem statement should say that this is a ballistic trajectory (it always is in such problems, but still ... )

(2) I interpret the question to mean that you are to show that the apex occurs when half of the total horizontal distance has been covered. I think this would be a more normal interpretation that the other two possible interpretations which are "when half of the total time has elapsed" and "when BOTH half of the time AND half of the distance have elapsed" (which happens to be the case but to my mind wasn't really the question).

For half the horizontal distance to be covered, half the time from x=0 to x = x must have elasped. I have found this time, symbolically. I subbed this time into the y-displacement component. Would this, thus, demonstrated the proof?
 
negation said:
For half the horizontal distance to be covered, half the time from x=0 to x = x must have elasped. I have found this time, symbolically. I subbed this time into the y-displacement component. Would this, thus, demonstrated the proof?

I hope you know the formula for the range of a symmetric projectile. You also know that time of ascent equals time of descent. Hence when y=H=Maximum height, x=Horizontal velocity * (total time)/2 = ...
 
sankalpmittal said:
I hope you know the formula for the range of a symmetric projectile. You also know that time of ascent equals time of descent. Hence when y=H=Maximum height, x=Horizontal velocity * (total time)/2 = ...

I know how to derive those equation.
What I did in the attachment was to find half the time required for the trajectory, then sub that time into the y-displacement equation. That would give me the displacement of the y-component at t = 1/2.
What I'm asking is if this alone is a sufficient condition for proving the demands of the question.
 
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negation said:
I know how to derive those equation.
What I did in the attachment was to find half the time required for the trajectory, then sub that time into the y-displacement equation. That would give me the displacement of the y-component at t = 1/2.
What I'm asking is if this alone is a sufficient condition for proving the demands of the question.

Well by your method you concluded in a long winded way that time of ascent = total time/2 = vy/g..

But then how you will prove that at y=maximum height, x= Range/2 for a symmetric projectile. You will need an equation for horizontal.
 
sankalpmittal said:
Well by your method you concluded in a long winded way that time of ascent = total time/2 = vy/g..

But then how you will prove that at y=maximum height, x= Range/2 for a symmetric projectile. You will need an equation for horizontal.

Am I required to use the x-displacement equation? If so, x = vi cos Θ .t
t at y_apex = vyi/g

x = vi cos Θ (vyi /g)
 
Personally, to show that half the distance is covered, I would find the total horizontal distance H and the horizontal distance to the apex A and show that A = H/2. That seems to be the most unambiguous way to do it.
 

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