Proving a known function of position via Chain Rule

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving a relationship in rectilinear motion using the Chain Rule, specifically focusing on how acceleration as a function of position can be integrated to find velocity as a function of position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem and the relevant equations, with one participant attempting to simplify the equation but expressing uncertainty about their approach. Others question the accuracy of the simplification and the initial setup of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and corrections regarding the application of the Chain Rule. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the equation's structure and the proper use of mathematical operations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a potential error in the original equation setup, indicating that the participants are working with assumptions that may need to be revisited. The context of using the Chain Rule is emphasized, but the specific details of the proof remain unresolved.

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Homework Statement


Use the Chain Rule to prove that for rectilinear motion, when the acceleration is a known function of position, you can find the velocity as a function of position via the integral

\frac{v^{2}-v_{0}^{2}}{2} = \int^{s}_{s_{0}}a(s)ds


Homework Equations


v^{2}=v_{0}^{2}\times2as


The Attempt at a Solution


I took the left fraction, substituted v^2, simplified and got as. I let A be as, then took dA to get a da. Now I'm stuck.
 
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I think you simplified wrong. It's a multipication sign not addition. See what I mean?
 
Hold up, I wrote the question on the board wrong -- it is supposed to be a plus for the relevant equation part.
 
I'm not exactly sure what they're asking here. For constant accelerations, you "relevant equation" is basically the answer, assuming you swap out the "x" for a "+" and take a square root. What's throwing me is the request for proof by chain rule.
 
Chain Rule

kylera said:

Homework Statement


Use the Chain Rule to prove that for rectilinear motion, when the acceleration is a known function of position, you can find the velocity as a function of position via the integral

\frac{v^{2}-v_{0}^{2}}{2} = \int^{s}_{s_{0}}a(s)ds


Homework Equations


v^{2}=v_{0}^{2}\times2as


The Attempt at a Solution


I took the left fraction, substituted v^2, simplified and got as. I let A be as, then took dA to get a da. Now I'm stuck.

Hi kylera! :smile:

You were asked to use the Chain Rule. So …

Hint: the LHS is ∫vdv. So use the Chain Rule on dv. :smile:
 

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