Proving c in Special Relativity

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The discussion focuses on proving that the speed of light remains constant at c for an observer on Earth, despite the starship moving at a speed greater than 0.5c. The user has derived equations for the angular velocity of a phaser blast and is exploring the implications of the Lorentz transformations, which assert that light's speed is invariant across inertial frames. The conversation shifts to the headlight effect, where the user seeks to determine the observed angle of light emitted from the starship in the Earth's frame. They have formulated an equation relating the angles but are uncertain about how to proceed with solving for the observed angle or applying the headlight effect. The discussion emphasizes the need for clarity on the relationship between emitted and observed angles in the context of special relativity.
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I have a starship moving at a speed v, which is larger than .5c, away from Earth in the x direction. A blast of its phaser banks (assume highly focused light) travels at an angle (phi)'.

From this I need to prove that an astronomer who observes the phaser blast moves at a speed of c, the speed of light.

I have it worked out that the angular velocity of the phaser blast from the starship in the x direction is v'sub(x) = c * cos ((phi)') and in the y direction is v'sub(y) = c * sin((phi)').

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Okay, I have some more work to the problem. I found that the velocity function in the x direction is vsub(x) = (v'sub(x) + u) / (1 + (u* v'sub(x)/c)) and that works out to be:
(c * cos ((phi)') + u) / ( 1 + u * cos((phi)'))


Now what?
 
kahless2005 said:
I have a starship moving at a speed v, which is larger than .5c, away from Earth in the x direction. A blast of its phaser banks (assume highly focused light) travels at an angle (phi)'.

From this I need to prove that an astronomer who observes the phaser blast moves at a speed of c, the speed of light.

I have it worked out that the angular velocity of the phaser blast from the starship in the x direction is v'sub(x) = c * cos ((phi)') and in the y direction is v'sub(y) = c * sin((phi)').

Any help would be appreciated!
If this is intended as an exercise in using the Lorentz transformations, it is somewhat circular. The Lorentz transformations are based on the principle that the speed of light is c in all inertial frames of reference.

Here you have a light pulse fired from a moving observer, so we know on principle that the speed of light relative to all observers will be c.

What is more interesting is to work out the angle that the phasor pulse will have relative to the Earth observer. It will be less than \phi.

AM
 
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Thanks Andrew

Then next step has the phaser banks replaced by a light source.

Now I am assuming that the light source radiates in all directions in the starship's frame of reference. And this I assume denotes grounds for the headlight effect for the astronomer's frame of reference.

The problem now asks me to find \phinaught on Earth.

I already have found the equation:
cos(\phi) = (cos(\phi')+ u/c) / (1 + (u* cos(\phi')/c))

Do I simply solve for \phi, or is there some equation for headlight effects? My book and my notes only have a mention of headlight effect, that I can find.
 
kahless2005 said:
Thanks Andrew

Then next step has the phaser banks replaced by a light source.

Now I am assuming that the light source radiates in all directions in the starship's frame of reference. And this I assume denotes grounds for the headlight effect for the astronomer's frame of reference.

The problem now asks me to find \phinaught on Earth.

I already have found the equation:
cos(\phi) = (cos(\phi')+ u/c) / (1 + (u* cos(\phi')/c))

Do I simply solve for \phi, or is there some equation for headlight effects? My book and my notes only have a mention of headlight effect, that I can find.
Think of the perceived angle as proportional to the ratio of speed in the y direction to speed in the x direction (accurate only for small angles):

\phi ' \approx \frac{\frac{dy'}{dt'}}{\frac{dx'}{dt'}}

\phi \approx \frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}

Since dy'/dt' = dy/dt, the ratio of angles is:

\phi ' / \phi \approx \frac{\frac{dx}{dt}}{\frac{dx'}{dt'}} = \frac{1}{\gamma}

AM
 
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