Proving Change of Variables Formula for Double Integral w/ Chain Rule

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The discussion revolves around proving the change of variables formula for a double integral, specifically for the case where the function f(x,y) equals 1, utilizing Green's theorem. Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule in the context of expressing dy in terms of the variables u and v.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand how the expression for dy is derived, with references to the chain rule and its application in differential form. There are questions about the relationship between y as a function of u and v and how this relates to the expression for dy.

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The discussion is active, with some participants providing insights into the chain rule and its implications for expressing dy. There is a recognition of the differential form of the chain rule, but no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the problem.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions made regarding the relationships between the variables and the application of the chain rule. There is also a mention of the theoretical background that is assumed to be known but not fully detailed in the discussion.

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Hi, I'm having trouble understanding the solution to a question from my book. I think it's got something to do with the chain rule. The problem is to prove the change of variables formula for a double integral for the case f(x,y) = 1 using Green's theorem.

\int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_R^{} {dxdy} } = \int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_S^{} {\left| {\frac{{\partial \left( {x,y} \right)}}{{\partial \left( {u,v} \right)}}} \right|} } dudv

The solution starts off by using some equation in the theory section allows for the following equality to be established.

\int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_R^{} {dxdy} } = A\left( R \right) = \int\limits_{\partial R}^{} {xdy}

Then it says x = g(u,v) and dy = \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial u}}du + \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial v}}dv.

I don't understand how the expression for dy is arrived at. The variable y is a function of u and v. I can't see a way to use the chain rule here. Can someone please explain how the dy part is arrived at?
 
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I am not a mathematician, but you have the integrand as xdy, and y is apparently equal to h(u,v) so dy = h_u du + h_v dv. Does that answer?
 
It's just that I can't see how they got the expression for dy. I'm wondering if it is something similar to for example when you have y = x^2 then from that you get dy = 2x dx.
 
That's just how it (the 'chain rule') works for d's, it's obvious, isn't it?
 
Benny said:
Hi, I'm having trouble understanding the solution to a question from my book. I think it's got something to do with the chain rule. The problem is to prove the change of variables formula for a double integral for the case f(x,y) = 1 using Green's theorem.
\int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_R^{} {dxdy} } = \int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_S^{} {\left| {\frac{{\partial \left( {x,y} \right)}}{{\partial \left( {u,v} \right)}}} \right|} } dudv
The solution starts off by using some equation in the theory section allows for the following equality to be established.
\int\limits_{}^{} {\int\limits_R^{} {dxdy} } = A\left( R \right) = \int\limits_{\partial R}^{} {xdy}
Then it says x = g(u,v) and dy = \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial u}}du + \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial v}}dv.
I don't understand how the expression for dy is arrived at. The variable y is a function of u and v. I can't see a way to use the chain rule here. Can someone please explain how the dy part is arrived at?

?? That is the chain rule, in differential form. Perhaps you are more familiar with the chain rule as
\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial u}}\frac{du}{dx} + \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial v}}\frac{dv}{dx}
From that, it follows from the definition of differentials that
dy= \frac{dy}{dx}dx
so that
dy= \frac{dy}{dx}dx = \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial u}}\frac{du}{dx}dx + \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial v}}\frac{dv}{dx}dx
dy = \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial u}}du + \frac{{\partial h}}{{\partial v}}dv

Notice that I have assumed that u and v are functions of x. The nice thing about differential form is that you don't have to assume any specific parameter.
 
Ok I see how it's arrived at now. Thanks for the help.
 

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