Proving tension in rope of equilibrium system

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The discussion revolves around solving a problem involving tension in a rope within an equilibrium system. The user initially attempts to resolve forces and moments but struggles to eliminate the variable OC from their equations. Participants suggest using the principle of moments and balancing torques about different points to simplify the problem. They emphasize the importance of resolving tension into horizontal and vertical components and recommend focusing on the geometry of the system to express unknowns in terms of given angles. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for careful analysis of forces and moments to solve equilibrium problems effectively.
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Haruspex , I was wondering - the fact that balancing torques about point X gives us a single equation is all well and good - but does it necessarily give you a faster solution than say , about point O ?
 
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For this problem, I like finding the torque about point O. Using point X is also handy. In this problem, the unknown distances OC and BC make any method using them fairly complicated, whereas the normal forces (especially NA) are not too difficult to work with.

If the student understands how to use the line of action of a force, then using point X does give a nice result. But using the "line of action" also makes point O and even point B good points for evaluating the torque.

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If one uses torques about O, T does not come into the equation because it does not provide any torque about O. So one would need to use additional equations to solve for T.
 
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andrewkirk said:
If one uses torques about O, T does not come into the equation because it does not provide any torque about O. So one would need to use additional equations to solve for T.
Sure, but T comes back in by considering the forces equation(s).
 
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SammyS said:
Sure, but T comes back in by considering the forces equation(s).

Yes , I think he has mentioned that you would need additional equations .

Qwertywerty said:
Haruspex , I was wondering - the fact that balancing torques about point X gives us a single equation is all well and good - but does it necessarily give you a faster solution than say , about point O ?

What I was trying to say here was that although you would get more equations , time would not be much of a factor , as the three equations required to be solved while using O could be , easily and fast .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
What I was trying to say here was that although you would get more equations , time would not be much of a factor , as the three equations required to be solved while using O could be , easily and fast .
If the other two tricks do not come immediately to mind, I agree there would be no time saved in the problem in this thread. However, it is a useful option to look for in general.
 
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