Qsp Calculation for NaCl+AgNO3: Determine Precipitate

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the ion product (Qsp) to determine if a precipitate will form when sodium chloride (NaCl) is mixed with silver nitrate (AgNO3). Participants explore the correct formulation of the net ionic equation and the appropriate coefficients to use in the Qsp calculation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the initial concentrations of Ag+ and Cl- after mixing the solutions and questions whether Qsp should be calculated as (.00050)(.00250) or (.00050)^2(.00250).
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the equations presented, noting discrepancies and questioning the intent behind the calculations.
  • A participant asserts that the net ionic equation provided is incorrect, stating that mixing soluble silver salts with chlorides leads to the precipitation of silver chloride.
  • Several participants discuss the need to balance the net ionic equation, with one participant referencing their teacher's guidance on using coefficients from the net ionic equation.
  • Another participant reiterates the balanced net ionic equation for the precipitation of AgCl as Cl- + Ag+ --> AgCl.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct net ionic equation or the appropriate coefficients for the Qsp calculation. Multiple competing views and interpretations of the equations remain unresolved.

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There are limitations regarding the clarity of the equations presented and the assumptions made about the reactions occurring in solution. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct approach to calculating Qsp and the proper formulation of the net ionic equation.

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Calculate the ion product to determine if a precipitate will form when 125 mL .00500 M sodium chloride is mixed with 125 mL .00100 M silver nitrate solution.

NaCl + AgNO3 -> NaNO3 + AgCl

Net ionic equation = 2AgCl -> 2Ag + Cl2


[Ag+] before = .00100 after = .00050
[Cl-] before = .00500 after = .00250

My question was about the Qsp. Would the Qsp = (.00050)(.00250) or Qsp = (.00050)^2(.00250) I don't understand which co-efficients to look at, the one in the equation or the one in the net-ionic equation. Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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Your question is very confusing.
The 1st and 2nd equation are different...as well flipped in a way...

you are saying one of the products is Chlorine gas... and the reactant is AgCl, which is a product of the first equation.
the netionic eq qould be Cl(-) + Ag(+) --> AgCl, and i don't know why you are trying to balance it out.
Remember its a solution, so you can have Cl(-) ions by themselves.

Are you trying to find the reaction quotient??
 
pmahesh107 said:
Net ionic equation = 2AgCl -> 2Ag + Cl2

It is not a correct net ionic equation for this reaction. If you mix soluble silver salt with chlorides, silver chloride precipitates.
 
why is it Cl(-) + Ag(+) --> AgCl ? don't you have to balance it out? i asked my teacher and she said to use the co-efficient from the net ionic equation
 
pmahesh107 said:
why is it Cl(-) + Ag(+) --> AgCl ? don't you have to balance it out? i asked my teacher and she said to use the co-efficient from the net ionic equation

And Cl- + Ag+ --> AgCl is the balanced net ionic equation of AgCl precipitation.
 

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