Question about concentric conductors

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves three insulated concentric spherical conductors with specified radii and charges, requiring the determination of their potentials and the effect of grounding the innermost sphere on the potential of the outermost conductor.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of potentials in different regions and the implications of grounding the innermost sphere. There are questions regarding the continuity of potentials and the determination of integration constants.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights on how to approach the problem, including considerations for setting potentials at infinity and the implications of grounding. Multiple interpretations of the problem structure are being explored, particularly regarding the separation of tasks in the exercise.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty about the necessary conditions for solving for the integration constants without additional information on the potentials at each surface. The grounding condition introduces further complexity to the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Three insulated concentric spherical conductors, whose radii in ascending order of magnitude are ##a, b, c##, have charged ##e_1, e_2, e_3## respectively, find their potentials and show that if the inner most sphere is grounded, the potential of the outermost is diminished by:

##\frac{a}{c} ( \frac{k e_1}{a} + \frac{k e_2}{b} + \frac{k e_3}{c} ) ##.

Homework Equations



##k = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0}##

The Attempt at a Solution


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The potentials in each region are ##V_I = \frac{k e_1}{r} + C##, ##V_{II} = \frac{k (e_1 + e_2)}{r} + D##, and ##V_{III} = \frac{k (e_1 + e_2 + e_3)}{r} + E##, where ##C, D## and ##E## are integration constants. Setting the potential at the innermost sphere to ##0##, we solve for ##C##, giving us ##V_{III} = \frac{k e_1}{r} - \frac{k e_1}{a}##. Ensuring continuity @ ##b## and ##c##, I finally get ##V_{III} = \frac{k (e_1 + e_2 + e_3)}{r} - (\frac{e_3}{c} + \frac{e_2}{b} + \frac{e_1}{a})##. I just don't see how we get the factor of ##\frac{a}{c}## on the outside. Help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Hello Jason,

I read the exercise as consisting of two parts: a) find the potentials, and b)ground the inner sphere and ... etc.
 
BvU said:
Hello Jason,

I read the exercise as consisting of two parts: a) find the potentials, and b)ground the inner sphere and ... etc.

Oops, sorry you're totally right. I left the potentials in that form because you can't solve for ##C##, ##D##, and ##E## without knowing the potentials on each surface. Is this the wrong way of approaching the problem?
 
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you should be able to solve part a using potental zero at infinity
 

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